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rulers can be changed, and their minds can also be changed. i personally think (IMHO) that some training should be required, some folks have never handled a gun. as for permitting, i don't have a firm answer. One young (emphasis on young) felt permitting should be required, criminals might get them..... well their in a special class, "no permit required" i certainly don't think that the FFL should be responsilbe to make that determination.