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Good info on self defense bullets
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Glockster30
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Been posted before.
https://www.northeastshooters.com/v...58-What-do-you-carry-for-defensive-ammo/page9
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https://www.northeastshooters.com/v...58-What-do-you-carry-for-defensive-ammo/page9
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Nice! Trying to look at on phone but will dig into it more when I get to a bigger venue. Thanks for posting.
Probably a stupid question, but why do people always use gelatin that is at least 3 times as wide as a human torso? Isn't the resulting 'wound cavity' beyond a certain point irrelevant or does the gelatin composition accurately resemble the same distance in a human body? Not sure if I'm making sense....
The gel simply provides for a consistent test medium with measurable travel and therefore a basis for comparisons. If the gel was thinner then rounds would simply pass through and you would end up with less data to compare.
You want to catch and recover the bullet, rather than having it pass through all of the gel. That gives you a better idea of how the bullet behaves and expands because, well, the bullet is right there in front of you in the gel. Also, gel is just a simulation of human skin, bone, and tissue - 12" in gel is only an approximation of 12" in a torso and probably isn't the exact identical distance, as there are too many variables.
Been carrying the Federal HST 147 grain standard pressure in my 9mm and the HST 230 +P in my .45.
Kind of surprised to see the 147 grain with the same expansion as the 124 grain in 9mm. That's not what I've seen on other tests where the 147 grain opened up a lot more than the 124 grains. Think I will just stick with what I have for now.
In the 230 grain .45 the standard pressure average expansion was actually better than the +p but one of the +P rounds didn't expand at all which I have never seen before in any HST test. I guess it can happen to any of them on rare occasion. Had they all expanded I think the +p expansion would have been a little more than the standard pressures and give the slightly better penetration and teeny bit higher velocity. Again, I think I'll stick with the 230 grain +Ps for now.
When I can get the Federal 50 round LE boxes for $20 for the 9mm and $28 for the .45 it is really hard to beat them for the price.
Kind of surprised to see the 147 grain with the same expansion as the 124 grain in 9mm. That's not what I've seen on other tests where the 147 grain opened up a lot more than the 124 grains. Think I will just stick with what I have for now.
In the 230 grain .45 the standard pressure average expansion was actually better than the +p but one of the +P rounds didn't expand at all which I have never seen before in any HST test. I guess it can happen to any of them on rare occasion. Had they all expanded I think the +p expansion would have been a little more than the standard pressures and give the slightly better penetration and teeny bit higher velocity. Again, I think I'll stick with the 230 grain +Ps for now.
When I can get the Federal 50 round LE boxes for $20 for the 9mm and $28 for the .45 it is really hard to beat them for the price.
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