Glock 17 or VP 9 ? Owners

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There is not enough Glock knob gobbling in here....

We need more

Glocks are like AR's

They're tools not collectibles

They just work....no fuss, no muss and there are literally an endless number of customizations/upgrades/mods avail........long after a future civilization ending event aliens will find this planet and find loads of AR's, AK's and Glock's stashed in archeological sites around the world..........
 

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For what it's worth, I too would have to say the Glock 45 is probably the best shooting Glock to come out of the factory. Just feels good in the hand and points naturally. Incredibly accurate.
 

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Buy both if you don’t mind having 2 striker fired 9mm. I own the HK but have shot both firearms and like them both. I like the HK mag release but I don’t mind the traditional mag release either.
So if you can afford both then buy both.
 

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As a lefty I like the paddle release.

Also note that the 2020 VP9s are now shipping with 17rd mags and milled from the factory for RMRs/optics.
I plan on picking one up once I save a bit, need a VR80 for 3-gun first.

Fellow lefty i also love the paddle release i have a Beretta and the vp9 ill have to add a glock to my collection :)
 

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I have both too and the VP9 is overall a much better gun. I like the paddle release and the grip feels much better. Trigger is nicer out of the box too.

With that said though... if I could only ever have 1... I'd probably take the G17 just because of all the options for mags, parts, accessories.
 

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if you don't like the grip angle but like the availability of parts and cheap mags for glock platform, you could go the p80 frame route. they even have one that is basically 19 length grip but takes 17 length slides... so like a reverse 19x...
 

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VP9. I have both and prefer the paddle as a righty. Once use to it, you can hit it quicker with your middle finger on your dominant hand.
But the VP is a TANK and not a good carry gun. A lot of extra steel.
It's 4.5 ounces heavier than a G19?
And between size of G19 and G17?

I guess it depends on what form factor one likes to carry. I've carried things anywhere from an LCP II to a P226. I know some people that say a G19 is "too big" but plenty of people carry 1911s.
 

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I loved the release on my old 45C. I’m also still pissed that I got rid of that gun. That aside, I have a Gen5 G19 that I really like, but I like the longer sight plane of the VP9. I‘ve thought about picking one up and the long slide to go with it, but I want more .45ACP and 10mm, not 9mm.
 

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I don't own either, but have shot the VP9 and like it. However, I don't care for the mag release. The VP9B model with push button release is not Mass compliant,
and when I spoke to H&K last summer, they said they would not submit it for testing.
 

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It's 4.5 ounces heavier than a G19?
And between size of G19 and G17?

I guess it depends on what form factor one likes to carry. I've carried things anywhere from an LCP II to a P226. I know some people that say a G19 is "too big" but plenty of people carry 1911s.
IWB. Width is a factor. A good belt and you can carry a heavy gun. Too long (Target 1911 / G17) or too wide (VP9) gets harder to conceal and buy pants for...
 

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IWB. Width is a factor. A good belt and you can carry a heavy gun. Too long (Target 1911 / G17) or too wide (VP9) gets harder to conceal and buy pants for...
I IWB'd a P226 for 18 months and the VP9 is thinner, so I don't think I'd have a problem.
But yes, it depends on the person. I know some people that think anything bigger than a G26 is "much too big."
The VP9 is 0.14'' wider than a G19; less than a quarter of an inch.
 

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I have owned both. The grip of the VP9 is more adaptable. But I do fine with Glocks.

If you plan to carry it, the fact that the VP9's slide is about 50% wider than the Glock's will come into play.
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If I was really interested in the VP9, I'd seriously consider the Walther PPQ. Its not as tacticool , but a better trigger and a generally better shooter.
 

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Well,

I abandoned both of these and I opted for a 2.0 Compact 4". It is used but has an aluminum Apex trigger and night sights.

I LOVED my M&P 9mm with Apex FSS.... except it suffered from barrel unlocking early issue or whatever they suffered from. I got rid of it because it pissed be off being inconsistent. Great trigger ergonomics and recoil impulse though
 

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I had the VP9, its a fine Gun. How ever its to big for me to CC. But your also comparing it to the G17 wich is also big.
I recommend going to a range that has both for you to try out. If you are in MA, on target in Dracut has both those firearms for rental.
Good luck!
 

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Well,

I abandoned both of these and I opted for a 2.0 Compact 4". It is used but has an aluminum Apex trigger and night sights.

Well shoot I didn't know we could suggest other options! Imo the 2.0 series is better than either one of the original choices.
 

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I had the VP9, its a fine Gun. How ever its to big for me to CC. But your also comparing it to the G17 wich is also big.
I recommend going to a range that has both for you to try out. If you are in MA, on target in Dracut has both those firearms for rental.
Good luck!

Oh, I've owned both at one time. I guess the WOW factor just isn't there but needed a range gun.
 

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I LOVED my M&P 9mm with Apex FSS.... except it suffered from barrel unlocking early issue or whatever they suffered from. I got rid of it because it pissed be off being inconsistent. Great trigger ergonomics and recoil impulse though

I don't need to worry, my FFL worked for S&W, so if anything goes wrong, he'll fix it.
 

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I own both. I find that my G19 has a better natural point of aim for me, whereas I need to hold my VP9 about 2 inches over where I want to hit. Im guessing this is a training issue, but has anyone else had this issue?
 

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I own both. I find that my G19 has a better natural point of aim for me, whereas I need to hold my VP9 about 2 inches over where I want to hit. Im guessing this is a training issue, but has anyone else had this issue?

My natural point of aim with someones VP9, P30, etc, is like 10-15 degrees at the ground. If I shoot guns like that, sight acquisition time sucks as I have to like, sort of roll my wrists backwards slightly to bring the front sight up to where it's supposed to be. If that's the only gun I owned my brain would probably get used to it but it's not. I point Glock/1911/Sig P320/CZ P10s etc just fine... but those newer HKs are on another f***ing planet. Even with the big hump strap installed it still doesn't bring the sights up much. For some reason, I didn't find the USPs I owned that difficult, not sure why.
 

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I own both. I find that my G19 has a better natural point of aim for me, whereas I need to hold my VP9 about 2 inches over where I want to hit. Im guessing this is a training issue, but has anyone else had this issue?

Same here. I got rid of my VP9 even though it was more comfortable, ergonomic, had the best striker trigger I've ever felt, and I liked it better than the Gen3 G19 I have. I'm not a Glock fan by any stretch. It's not nearly as comfortable, not lefty friendly, the trigger isn't even close to great, it's ugly, I just happen shoot it really well even though I've even had it for less time than I had the VP9. Training? Maybe. But I'm with you on natural point of aim being a part of the equation. I put 1000's of rounds through the VP9 (first handgun) and within a solid range trip I could shoot the G19 better. Oh well. I do miss having an HK in the safe.
 
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