Getting a new Motorcycle, bc CA is retarded

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So here is how retarded CA is. I moved to CA in Sept with my 2017 harley fatboy. I hardly rode it my first year, it has only 2500 miles on it. It is a "49 state bike" meaning it, even in stock from, doesn't comply with CA's commie bullshit. So......

I went in December to try to register it and was basically told I can't. I had already started a CA registration application at this time. So I left the DMV with the understanding that I moved here with a brand new motorcycle that I can't legally ride here. Neato.

CA has a rule that a used vehicle is really a brand spanking new vehicle if it has less than 7500 miles. Even if it's be titled and registered in another state. Even if you moved here with it as opposed to having gone to Nevada and just bought it.

So here I am with a nearly new bike that I can never legally ride in CA, that I'm making payments on. Pretty neat huh.

So I recently decided to just sell the f***ing thing via a trade in and get a new motorcycle. Decided on Ducati Diavel 1260S. I used to have a Diavel, loved it, but for some dumb reason was itching for a HD. Now I'm really excited to get back on a technologically advanced, non HD retard bike. Yay.

Now, it gets more interesting.

Yesterday I get a threatening letter from the CA DMV telling me that I have an "incomplete registration" because I never finished registering my motorcycle. My options are 1) register it, 2) prove i moved it out of state and registered it in another state, or 3) prove I sold it by completing a Transfer and Release of Liability. So Option 3 it is.

Well the back of the Notice of Transfer and release of Liability states that my name won't be removed from their system until the new owner completes transfer paper work (i.e. retitles it in their name).
The difficulty is, the Ducati dealer doesn't want a f***ing harley so a wholesaler is taking it. The wholesaler is going to throw it on a truck and sell it somewhere, likely not in CA. So if the wholesaler puts it on a truck and sends it to Ohio and titles it there, how the f*** is CA every going to get proof it was retitled and remove my f***ing name?

My dealer told me the wholesaler knows and doesn't give a shit about the fact that it can't be registered in CA because it ain't staying in CA.

I call the DMV and get different answers.


I'm just going to trade it, keep all the paper work, all the contact info for the wholesaler and say f*** it.

Almost weekly I come across another reason to despise this miserable commie shit hole of a state. I knew before moving here I'd hate it but figured it was worth it for a few years because my new job is a career shortcut that will help me tremendously when I move back east, and a few years of awesome winterless weather would be nice. Now I'm not even sure. I'd rather move back to MA and work at f***ing McDonald's and be poor than have a good job but live in CA.

I really hope that the big one dumps this entire state into the sea. I just hope it happens after I move back to America.

MA is a bastion of freedom compared to this god damned shithole and that is saying a lot.

So anyway, super excited about getting new bike, but totally expecting some f***ed up letter form the DMV or Franchise Tax Board in 6 months telling me I owe them money for a bike I don't have anymore.
 

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When the wholesaler sells it he’s supposed to send in a form to DMV stating he sold it. Whether he does or not is another story. However, wholesalers need to be bonded and filing a claim against the bond will get quick action.
 

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Calif laws are really f...d' up for everything. You should have taken ALL the problems into consideration before moving there.
 

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So here is how retarded CA is. I moved to CA in Sept with my 2017 harley fatboy. I hardly rode it my first year, it has only 2500 miles on it. It is a "49 state bike" meaning it, even in stock from, doesn't comply with CA's commie bullshit. So......

I went in December to try to register it and was basically told I can't. I had already started a CA registration application at this time. So I left the DMV with the understanding that I moved here with a brand new motorcycle that I can't legally ride here. Neato.

CA has a rule that a used vehicle is really a brand spanking new vehicle if it has less than 7500 miles. Even if it's be titled and registered in another state. Even if you moved here with it as opposed to having gone to Nevada and just bought it.

So here I am with a nearly new bike that I can never legally ride in CA, that I'm making payments on. Pretty neat huh.

So I recently decided to just sell the f***ing thing via a trade in and get a new motorcycle. Decided on Ducati Diavel 1260S. I used to have a Diavel, loved it, but for some dumb reason was itching for a HD. Now I'm really excited to get back on a technologically advanced, non HD retard bike. Yay.

Now, it gets more interesting.

Yesterday I get a threatening letter from the CA DMV telling me that I have an "incomplete registration" because I never finished registering my motorcycle. My options are 1) register it, 2) prove i moved it out of state and registered it in another state, or 3) prove I sold it by completing a Transfer and Release of Liability. So Option 3 it is.

Well the back of the Notice of Transfer and release of Liability states that my name won't be removed from their system until the new owner completes transfer paper work (i.e. retitles it in their name).
The difficulty is, the Ducati dealer doesn't want a f***ing harley so a wholesaler is taking it. The wholesaler is going to throw it on a truck and sell it somewhere, likely not in CA. So if the wholesaler puts it on a truck and sends it to Ohio and titles it there, how the f*** is CA every going to get proof it was retitled and remove my f***ing name?

My dealer told me the wholesaler knows and doesn't give a shit about the fact that it can't be registered in CA because it ain't staying in CA.

I call the DMV and get different answers.


I'm just going to trade it, keep all the paper work, all the contact info for the wholesaler and say f*** it.

Almost weekly I come across another reason to despise this miserable commie shit hole of a state. I knew before moving here I'd hate it but figured it was worth it for a few years because my new job is a career shortcut that will help me tremendously when I move back east, and a few years of awesome winterless weather would be nice. Now I'm not even sure. I'd rather move back to MA and work at f***ing McDonald's and be poor than have a good job but live in CA.

I really hope that the big one dumps this entire state into the sea. I just hope it happens after I move back to America.

MA is a bastion of freedom compared to this god damned shithole and that is saying a lot.

So anyway, super excited about getting new bike, but totally expecting some f***ed up letter form the DMV or Franchise Tax Board in 6 months telling me I owe them money for a bike I don't have anymore.
I’ll take it off your hands for 500. I’ll pay for the shipping
 

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That would have pissed me off so much I would have registered it in some other state by gaming the system.

ETA: And then, as Greg states, proceeded to drive it on their roads as much as possible.

ETA2: I am looking forward to the day far in the future when my fun car is way way way NOT carb compliant (supercharged, probably decatted) and road tripping it in CA and flipping them the bird.... [rofl]

-Mike
 

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I've heard a lot of people upset about that 7500 mile rule. I know people that lived in CA, and had to pass on great deals on used bikes from out of stated because it had too few miles.
 

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I've heard a lot of people upset about that 7500 mile rule. I know people that lived in CA, and had to pass on great deals on used bikes from out of stated because it had too few miles.
It's a pretty absurd rule too given that 7500 miles for most bike riders is a relative SHITLOAD of miles.

-Mike
 

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It's a pretty absurd rule too given that 7500 miles for most bike riders is a relative SHITLOAD of miles.

-Mike
Especially if you are buying it from a northern state. My bike doesn't have many miles, but even when I rode more, I'd be lucky to get 2K miles in a year.
 
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I think your handwriting is just messy, and when you wrote 7500, it looked like you wrote 2500
oh no my friend. When you register a vehicle here, you have to bring it to the DMV so they can inspect it. They match the VIN to the VIN you wrote, and they validate the VIN is 49 or 50 state emissions. They also check the odometer.
 
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That would have pissed me off so much I would have registered it in some other state by gaming the system.

ETA: And then, as Greg states, proceeded to drive it on their roads as much as possible.

ETA2: I am looking forward to the day far in the future when my fun car is way way way NOT carb compliant (supercharged, probably decatted) and road tripping it in CA and flipping them the bird.... [rofl]

-Mike
I'm so sick of this state....when I move out of here I'm leaving a parting gift of environmental destruction to "get my money's worth".

Not sure what yet...maybe dump a few gallons of dirty motor oil in a stream somewhere or set a bunch of tires on fire.
 

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You should have kept your Harley and joined a club that Emissions are the last thing the cops are worried about...


Plus, their BBQ's are OUTSTANDING...!
 
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