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George Patton Military Day

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by P. Lopes, Jul 12, 2019.

  1. P. Lopes

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    Tomorrow July 13th at Patton's homestead in Hamilton, MA. Military day with Sherman tanks, half tracks and other military vehicles, reenactors, helicopter landings.
    Great fun, I go every year.

    More info at. www.pattonhomestead.org/military-service-day
     
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  2. whacko

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    Sounds interesting.

    Assume it's tomorrow....July 13 eh?
     
  3. P. Lopes

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    sorry for the typo, I'll fix it.
     
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    Nice! I live 20min away. May have to stop in.

    Hamilton is a rich liberal community. I wonder how many heads explode over this.
     
  5. P. Lopes

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    It's being going on for 5 or 6 years now and it is well received by the locals.
     
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    Good to know the locals don't get their panties bunched up over a patriotic event with gunz, veterans, war machines, etc[thumbsup]

    The small town rag covering Hamilton and a few other little towns has an article about "Wenhan Museum's Patton Family Archives receives DAR Award"
    (Daughters of the American Revolution)
     
  7. Masswhole

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    There’s a Sherman in their main park, Patton Park.

    Lots of libs and fudds but I know a lot of gun guys from there too.
     
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    Great show. Can't make it this year but went two years ago.
     
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    This event is definitely worth the trip! I've been to a few West Point Alumni Association events at Green Meadows farm and they have always been memorable. Joanne Holbrook Patton, widow of the late Major General George S. Patton (son of the famous World War II hero, General George S. Patton, Jr.) is a most elegant host and an amazing woman. Her home is a living museum, particularly, with respect to MGEN Patton's service in Viet Nam. Hopefully, that will be open to the public at this event. She and her late husband are truly magnificent American heroes!
     
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    Are they going to reenact how Patton gave the order to fire on American WW1 vets in the bonus army? Patton was a dirt ball and a piece of shit officer who got idolized because he was fortunate to rake in some wins during WW 2. He was the epitome of a crappy leader, with no regard for the lives of the men under his comand.
     
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    So not going to the show I guess.
     
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    ‘Our Blood his Guts’
     
  13. Masswhole

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    Show was a good time. Hot as balls though.
    Both of my grandma's brothers served under patton.
    They didn't complain about much but I do recall them not being his biggest fans.
     
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    Opinions vary. And sometimes so do facts.

    The two veterans killed seem to have been shot by police.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ck-them/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.281fb051d47f

    Patton was there, along with several other senior officers and he apparently did his part but with less bloodshed.

    Patton and the Bonus March of 1932

    Patton a "crappy leader"? No way. Hard-nosed, autocratic, demanding, yes. But he got the most out of his men by understanding one thing. Men die in wars. It can't be helped. You can reduce casualties by not entering the battle, or you can do it by strong, forceful action which reduce the enemy's ability to kill your men.

    We are going to have to differ on this point but I think many more knowledgeable military experts would agree with me rather than you.

    As a final reference:

    A Study of General George S. Patton Jr's. Leadership Style
     
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    Went for the second year in a row. My eight year-old daughter loves it. WWII day in NH is coming up next weekend, too. Took her to that one last year, she loved it as well.
     
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    Before you post, make sure you have your facts in order, unless you like to create stupid myths and legends.

    So called "Bonus Army" was manipulated by few commies to demand early maturity of bonds given to vets by the government. These bonds were suppose to mature in 1945, not whenever somebody needed them to mature. March happened in 1932! Patton was the executive officer and did not exercise direct command. "Bonus Army" started hurling stones and bricks first. They were tear-gassed. The cavalry advanced with sabers drawn and occasionally used the flats of their blades.

    It feels awkward that refugee like me has to defend American hero from a misinformed citizen.

    General Patton liberated concentration camp Buchenwald. Buchenwald was already under the control of the communists who initiated uprising knowing Patton's Army is on it's way. My grandfather, who was one of the leaders of the uprising, has told me that General Patton and his Army were something unbelievable back then. Unlike Red Army, which was stealing, raping and killing civilians all the way to liberation, Patton's Army was disciplined, very helpful and friendly. This from a hard core communist who was sitting in that camp from 1939 and thought Stalin was above the God!

    Liberation of Buchenwald Concentration Camp by 6th Armored Division of US Third Army, 11 April 1945

    Instead of posting insults you should pay attention to those who celebrate Patton's 6th Armored Division EVERY YEAR. Thousands of people would not appreciate your comments. Here is one example of such celebration from Pilsen (where beer is cheaper than water). I recommend you fly over there next year and get your facts updated on the ground:


    View: https://youtu.be/qcoUvCME8Ko

    This Museum of General Patton in Pilsen was funded by grateful citizens of the Czech Republic from their own pockets and it is maintained by private donations only.


    View: https://youtu.be/2eWR335mUR0
     
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    My dad’s unit was in 3rd Army briefly during the Bulge then moved to 9th Army. He was quite relieved when they were. Wasn’t a fan of the “I’ll get to Berlin first even if it takes a boxcar load of dog tags to do it.” comment.
     
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    Patton understood the strategic importance of Berlin, unlike our politicians, who have decided already that they will gift half of Europe to Stalin and his security forces. To put it in perspective here are approximate casualties from WWII.:
    WWIICasualities2.jpg

    Massive Russian casualties were result of an absolute disregard for human lives exhibited by the Soviet leadership. Patton knew better, than our overly optimistic politicians, what Soviets can do. He considered them as an absolute evil and he would be fighting them after the war, if it would be up to him.

    While his comments could be more sensitive, his desire to get to Berlin is understood more today than back then.

    Take a look at the casualties list. Hungary, for example, lost more people than the United States. Yugoslavia, which was fighting Italians and Nazis during the entire war and had strong partisans lost 1.7M, Poland 4.3M.....Yet, all of these countries were given to Stalin! Stalin made sure the casualties went into astronomical numbers right after the war when his secret police (NKVD) liquidated millions in all of those countries. Patton talked about it during the war. He was not listened to and our politicians wanted him to be silent.

    Our history does not speak about concentration camps in Europe built by Stalin. We talk about gulags, but concentration camps were working in Europe from 1945 under the direct command of NKVD which also utilized former Nazi prison guards in some areas. Patton listened to Russian refugees who escaped from communists in 1918 and were living since then in European cities. They were begging him to liberate those cities because if they would be liberated by Soviets they will be all killed or deported to Siberia. Our politicians did not care and gave such refugees back to Stalin as a gift. Only very few of them survived.

    I served in both military pacts, NATO and Warsaw Pact, and I can tell you that NATO was always about making sure no soldier is left behind. In Warsaw Pact, which was under the control of the Red Army, you were expected to die. That was just one of many main differences.
     
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    He helped save France.
     
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    Twice.

    added: And was wounded in combat during the first time.
     
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    Today young guns say: he was fortunate to rake in some wins :rolleyes:
     
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    So did John Christie and Edward "monk" Eastman.

    Young gun. Yeah, no. Old fart with bad knees and bad eyes here.
     
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    Take it like a compliment. On NES you do not look old at all. [thumbsup]
     
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    FPrice Retired Zoomie NES Life Member NES Member

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    You are going to have to provide a better, more accurate self-description. Those three items describe about half of us here.

    Ladies excepted.
     
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