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by Steve Bird
The Times
(London, UK)
Nov. 21, 2006

Offensive weapon was two-inch knife

Former brigadier held for four hours

It’s a Boy’s Own gift that will be stuffed into thousands of Christmas stockings, but a retired brigadier has discovered that the credit card-sized toolkit — complete with 5cm (2in) blade, compass, tweezers and toothpick — could put the recipients on the wrong side of the law.

Tom Foulkes, 56, who spent 35 years working for the Ministry of Defence developing real weapons, was arrested, locked up and had his fingerprints and DNA sample taken after the kit was discovered in his overnight bag by police.

The former Royal Engineer was preparing to board a Paris-bound train at Waterloo when an X-ray machine alarm was triggered by the toolkit. He was hauled from the station, placed in a cage in a van and taken to a police station for questioning. Four hours later he was released and cautioned after admitting to possessing an offensive weapon; Mr Foulkes had seen it as something with which to sharpen pencils and cut off luggage labels, and that his wife occasionally used to pluck her eyebrows.

Mr Foulkes aired his grievance in a letter to The Times. Yesterday he revealed more about his ordeal. “The whole thing was an absolute farce,” he said. “I’m now on the police database. They have photographs of me and records of my DNA and my fingerprints, all because I was carrying this useful little tool.”

Now director general of the Institution of Civil Engineers, Mr Foulkes was on a business trip to Paris when the officers arrested him. “I was bundled into the cage of a police van and taken to Tottenham Court Road custody centre,” he said. “My former rank seems to be the only thing that saved me from being handcuffed.”

The “multitool” was sent to a knife destruction centre in North London.

Mr Foulkes has now written to the Chief Constable of the British Transport Police to express his concern. “I want him to tell me if he thinks it is a sensible use of his officers’ time,” he said. “Surely they are trained to use some discretion and could see that I wasn’t a threat to anyone?

“I travel all over the world on business, to places such as Pakistan and parts of Africa, where a little tool like this is invaluable. If I had accidentally packed it in my hand luggage, airport security would probably have just taken it out of my bag and thrown it away and I’d be on my way. I can’t imagine that I would have been arrested.”

The transport police said that the officers used their discretion during the arrest and deemed the gadget to be a concealed weapon, prohibited under the Prevention of Crime Act 1953.

Mr Foulkes, who lives with his wife, Sally, in Fleet, Hampshire, is annoyed that he did not stand his ground over the issue. “I was polite throughout the experience, but after the event I realised that the right way of dealing with it would have been to say, ‘I’ll see you in court’, and to have argued it out there, instead of accepting the caution. The whole thing took up about four hours of police time. I dread to think what that cost the taxpayer.”

How the law defines offensive weapons

The offense of having a blade or sharpened point in a public place without good reason or lawful authority carries a maximum penalty of two years’ imprisonment.

Possession of an offensive weapon without lawful authority or reasonable excuse carries a maximum penalty of four years’ imprisonment

Offensive weapons are defined in the Prevention of Crime Act 1953 as “any article made or adapted for causing injury”

A disguised knife is classified as “any knife that has a concealed blade or concealed sharp point”

Head teachers were recently given permission, under the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006, to organise searches of their pupils for knives.

Source: The Home Office


The offense of having a blade or sharpened point in a public place without good reason or lawful authority carries a maximum penalty of two years’ imprisonment

Better not carry that pencil anywhere !
 
Two issues spring to mind with this situation. The first and most obvious is "Are you kidding me". The guy was arrested for having a multi tool. I guess I'd better not bring my Leatherman with me if I ever go there. What a crock.

The second and more important issue I have with this is that because of who he was, he was given a slap on the wrist and sent on his way. Once again proving that there are two sets of laws in the world. One for the rich and connected. A second for the rest of us slobs. If it was me, I'd probably get the two years in jail.
 
The transport police said that the officers used their discretion during the arrest and deemed the gadget to be a concealed weapon, prohibited under the Prevention of Crime Act 1953.

Possession of an offensive weapon without lawful authority or reasonable excuse carries a maximum penalty of four years’ imprisonment

Offensive weapons are defined in the Prevention of Crime Act 1953 as “any article made or adapted for causing injury”

I hope that everybody here realizes that given the combination of the attitudes of some radical feminists - and the British definition above of a "concealed weapon" - that every man is carrying a concealed weapon in his pants and is now under threat of arrest upon entering England.[rolleyes]
 
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What is pathetic is how the Homeland Security policy is to try to shut the barn door after the horse is out. As if Muslim terrorists are going to try the 9/11 thing again. So everyone has to stand in line for an hour and strip down to their undies so that we can be fair to everyone and not single out any 'suspicious' looking people and hurt their feelings.

All the terrorists have to do to shut down air travel in the entire US would be for one of them to try to smuggle a knife or a bomb through security up his ass. After that, TSA would do the obvious step of checking everyone's ass, and nobody would fly anymore at all.
 
I guess I'd better not bring my Leatherman with me if I ever go there.

I've brought mine through Healthrow (and many other airports) at least two dozen times in the past 5 years. Always in my checked bag in an outside pocket. That way I can gut through the plastic wire ties I use to make the TSA goons think twice about randomly searching my bag. Tool is darn useful on trips. I even pulled it out at Bergamo airport in plain site of some security officers when the wife decided to "re-pack" while waiting for a flight.


-= chuck
 
The second and more important issue I have with this is that because of who he was, he was given a slap on the wrist and sent on his way. Once again proving that there are two sets of laws in the world. One for the rich and connected. A second for the rest of us slobs. If it was me, I'd probably get the two years in jail.

It is the UK. Of course they have two sets of laws. At least they are honest about it. [smile] Here in the US we are not nearly as honest about it.

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"knife destruction centre"

Theres literally dedicated goverment infrastructure called "knife destruciton centers"?!
I wonder what it costs the taxpayer each year to run a single instance of such a facility?

Once Deval gets a couple of those set up here in boston he'll be able to man them with ex-massport toll workers.
 
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Outlaw knives? As the blokes would say:"They're bloody bonkers, mate". Were they in my kitchen yesterday, they'd have a "bloody cow". Knives are tools. They want to outlaw them? Then they can bring their "legal" surgeons tools around to carve my rib roast, turkey, pie, etc. Its time to tell these butt holes to stuff their PC ideas where the sun don't shine![angry2]
 
It's sad to contemplate, but I fear that it's too late for Britain and most of Europe. Between socialist governments, declining birth rates, and militant Islam, most of the countries we grew up knowing will cease to exist in the next 20 or so years.

As sad as it is, it does offer a sobering lesson to us. If we're smart enough to grasp it.

Gary
 
It's sad to contemplate, but I fear that it's too late for Britain and most of Europe. Between socialist governments, declining birth rates, and militant Islam, most of the countries we grew up knowing will cease to exist in the next 20 or so years.

As sad as it is, it does offer a sobering lesson to us. If we're smart enough to grasp it.

Gary
You're correct but it's a hard fight when you have Libs in this country like Hillary and Kerry preaching how "enlightened" the Europeans are and how we must emulate them.
 
You're correct but it's a hard fight when you have Libs in this country like Hillary and Kerry preaching how "enlightened" the Europeans are and how we must emulate them.

I think that events will overtake Kerry and Clinton. Americans aren't dumb, despite what we might think after the last election. They can see what's happening in other countries.

Gary
 
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