!@GA FH- -Hairy Shotgun/Rifle--

[hubel458]

12GA FH- -Hairy Shotgun/Rifle and Other Big Blasters

Just visiting here to tell about our
12GA From Hell videos on Youtube, and a
little info about our ongoing work. If you
have questions please ask. Here is pic of our
12GA FH case on the right. My first gun for
this was a Savage 210 with heavy barrel,
shown in 2nd picture...Ed Hubel

The videos are called--
Grandpa's First Shot-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c48zTpsgbuk

Grandpa's Cannon-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUNHszY4ACM

 

[Jose]

My shoulder hurts just looking at it.

 

[tele_mark]

I'd love to know what the ballistics are on that puppy.

 

[hubel458]

The gun is 23 lbs and big thick pad, shoots real easy with
600gr hardened Dixie slug at 3000 fps. My second gun a NEF
Ultra 12ga, that we just lengthened chamber, is little more interesting
recoil wise. It is 15lbs, thumbhole stock, thick pad, and handles
600 gr at 2600.Here is picture. All our chambers also will fire shorter
plastic and brass cases. In our testing we found loads for slugs in
3" and 3.5" plastic that will outdo factory loads by over 50%..Ed.

 

[JonJ]

That is frigging awesome!

 

[Palladin]

new home defense weapon ?

 

[Jose]

I wonder what it will do to a pumpkin?

 

[kevin9]

Kewl stuff. You wouldn't happen to be EddieCoyle's long lost evil twin brother who went down the dark shotty side?

 

[Fixxah]

My thoughts exactly... or a cousin maybe?

 

[hubel458]

It atomised a 6gal pail of water, I mean in pieces, so a punkin
would just disappear. I've only went to the big bore dark side,
like my 8GA FH I did on a bolt Enfield in picture.Or my
700 HE belted case in an Enfield and Savage 210
in 2nd picture....Ed

 

[hubel458]

Here are two pictures of the the variety of
12ga slugs we have tested.Ed

 

[Raoul Duke]

ooooohhhhhh. I want one. Not sure what I'll do with it but when the time comes, it will become clear to me. "sides, when I die, I can be cremated and fired out of the barrel just like my namesake.


R. Duke

 

[EddieCoyle]

Do you make anything bigger? Maybe in a handgun?

 

[Mr Weebles]

If I'm ever attacked by a dinosaur, I hope I have one of those handy.

 

[BillO]

Do you make anything bigger? Maybe in a handgun?

If he did, I KNOW you would shoot it ! !

 

[packingungal]

My shoulder hurts just looking at it.

I'd be lookin' for my shoulder....

 

[Geoff C]

If I'm ever attacked by a dinosaur, I hope I have one of those handy.

lol I was just about to say, any T-Rex's we can test this out on?

 

[hubel458]

For Eddie-- Later a 4bore and a 2bore projects.
Got barrels, figuring out actions.Here is pic of 4bore
cases that match turned 4bore cases that Ken Owen in
TN builds custom doubles for. We made cases from
20mm brass.In picture are cases and 2000 gr slugs
that Naval ordnance in WV makes. Also a 20mm
case and an 06 for size.Ed

 

[MassMark]

Wow!

 

[hubel458]

The first 12GA FH was Robs on AR forum, my Savage was 2nd.
Here is closeup pic of Rob's 12GA FH, a Borchardt falling block
action. Real nice. In picture is along brass 12ga case with one
of Rob's 2000gr bore rider, solid, streamlined slugs. Ed

 

[hubel458]

Here is picture of a neat scaled up Sharps replica
that would handle out 12GA FH and my 700HE.
That outside hammer looks great. From a magazine
article in Very High Power...Ed

 

[hubel458]

Here is picture of my 700 HE gun, a bolt action.
It is a shellholder style action. In pic also are my
belted straight 700 cases, I made from BMG brass.
1st case is my 700H 3.25" case, 2nd is my 700 HE
that the gun is chambered in.Ed

 

[hubel458]

Here is picture of a dart type 12ga slug Rob made. Body
is aluminum, it has a heavy tungsten carbide insert in the
nose. The TC in the nose is about 5 times denser than AL.
Total length is 2.35 inches, weight about 950 gr. The .75" long
insert a real tight type fit. Heat AL, put in insert, cools, locks on.
It is fairly streamlined, yet has wide meplat for penetration
in game. Flat points penetrate straighter in game.
It is hollow inside in the back, behind insert which puts the
center of gravity way up front, it should fly straight even from
a smoothbore. They are fast to make and material
less expense than copper.In pic is a copper and a brass 600
cal slugs for comparison. Dart/slug on right has insert.Ed

 

[hubel458]

Here are more samples of nice 12ga slugs.....Here is pic of
ones RG Henson sent. Jacketed 12ga. 715gr hollowpoints,
on the right and in front a jkt 675gr hollowbase.
RG's number 1-770-366-4846. These will be great for
shorter plastic and brass cases as well as long cases.
Other slugs in pic, in the back, left to right
Foster 436gr- Dixie 600gr- 750gr brass- my 750gr hollowbase
brass, and a hollowpoint I put a lightweight filler in the nose
for streamlining..Ed

 

[hubel458]

Here is picture of our case sectioned next to a
thin factory brass case to show the great strength.
And our case in pic was fired 35 times and shows
no stretching. Ed

 

[scouter-rick]

I am thinking of the commercial where the kid fills the back of their pants with soft fluffy toilet paper because it is so comfortable.

Seems to me that would be a prerequisite to diminish the impact when that baby knocks you on your backside!!!!

 

[hubel458]

A little guy who is 'Tailgunner" on various forums fired Savage
8 times in a row and said he could do more. With 730 gr load
at 2500. Gun has thick pad weighs 20 lbs, shoots easier than
a 7 lb 12ga with factory Buckhammer loads loads.Ed

 

[hubel458]

Testing 715gr jacketed hollowpoint from RG Henson in Savage 210.
With 30 inch barrel, long brass 3.85" case, big primer.
Slightly hairy load 290gr RL22--2700 fps. Shot moderate load
of 300gr W-860 -- 2400 fps for 3 shot group of 3" at 50
yards with my bad eyes and peep sights. They shoot nice, they go
into target straight.. Other nice thing the price from RG,
for customers getting in on his first run, $1.25 plus shipping.
That is less than half of what other big bore jkt bullets cost.
Call him for some great slugs. They are great like
the Dixie slugs. Ed

 

[hubel458]

Lookee what another santa sent me.
A regular BMG case on the left, and
a straight BMG case on the right, and it
CAME FROM THE MANUFACTURER THAT WAY.

It is primer cartridge for large guns and howitzers.
It is used in those guns/cannons that have powder in big bags.
It is filled with powder and inserted into cannon breach and
when fired sets off the larger charge. On some cannon breaches
they have an automatic feed for these with a huge 40 round
drum magazine. This on is marked IVI 89 C67. IVI is Canadian.
On these breaches it is held by collet fingers for head space
and for ejection.

Ok, there are many thousands more of these out there than the
PROP cases I showed before. We need to find few barrels of these
and have Rob, etal, put on rims.... no annealing.....no fireforming,
just slight resize to 12GA FH. Please help if you know of any.
They would save so much work and time..And even though fired
the bases are perfectly straight, another plus.....Ed

 

[hubel458]

Here is a picture of RG's jacketed 715gr slugs in various
loads.First are 2.75" and 3" factory foster slugs\ for
comparison. 3rd is jkt HP in 3.5" plastic case, 4th in a
3" brass RMC case. 5th in a 3.5" brass case with small
primer, 6th in our long brass 3.85" case, big primer.
Top hairy load in long case in Savage, 2900..Ed