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Full auto Glock parts

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Palladin, Apr 12, 2019.

  1. drgrant

    drgrant Moderator NES Member

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    Prosecution may fail because they likely assumed he had guns to convert.... if his lawyer/defender isn't crap, he'll probably walk outside of fleeing cops etc.

    ETA: none of this matters, looks like state not fed charges.... IL probably has a lower bar for this...
     

  2. CrackPot

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    It’s no so much that is has changed as understanding what constitutes a machine gun. You don’t need the rest of an AR for the receiver to be a firearm and require a dealer to sell. For the machine gun, you often have a couple options. You can register the existing serialized receiver as the machine gun or you can register the part that makes it full auto as machine gun which gives you two serialized pieces.

    With the Glock, the full auto sear is the machine gun. For your ar it is usually the receiver with m16 sear or it’s the DIAS or lightening link.

    For an MP5 it can either be a manufactured full auto trigger group or the receiver of a completely built MG.

    Don’t compare to sbrs and constructive possession. For MGs certain parts are machine guns independent of anything else you own.
     
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  3. mlaboss

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    It's really quite simple if you look at the actual definition of a machine gun from the law:

    The term “machinegun” means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.

    The bolded part means something like a lightning link or a Glock conversion backplate is considered a machine gun even though by itself it can't actually do anything. That's why this guy is screwed.
     
  4. citoriguy

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    There is none?
     
  5. drgrant

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    Years ago though the MG possession requirements under the law (to bag someone on possession) required at least a receiver + whatever. For example they couldn't really bag someone who had a DIAS on his desk and no ARs in the house. Like, DIAS, + receiver = conviction, etc.

    I've never even heard of someone being arrested for just a few parts.

    ETA: Just read mlaboss's post above.

    -Mike
     
  6. 42!

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    Its simple, they catch a tiny percentage, this guy just happens to be the .0001% that gets caught. But we only hear about the ones that got caught, not the 99.9999% that they missed.
     
  7. drgrant

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    I still think it's an inside job, someone tipped them off, otherwise it's a needle in a haystack....

    -Mike
     
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    Nah - who would have that kind of a vendetta against that guy? My best guess is wrong city, wrong place, and bolting when you see the blues light up (wrong time).
     
  9. Dennis in MA

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    Shot one at the MG shoot back 10-15 yrs ago in the pouring rain. It was pretty cool.
     
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    Quite possible though I would say that so much contraband material passes through the usps that they are bound to find something sooner or later. I’ve had some crazy stuff shipped through them. Awhile back I was looking for some industrial grade ant killer called Termidor-SC as I read it was the be all end all. Not only was it liquid but it was also hazardous. A place in Georgia shipped it loose in a flat rate box. You could hear the concentrate sloshing around in the box. And nobody thought to ask themselves what might be in there during that long journey? Well, thanks to them I have been ant free for 5 years!
     
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    First time and not bracing yourself it does push you backwards a bit.
     
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    I think the source of his purchase might have had something to do with it as well.
     
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  14. Glockster30

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    Is the Glock full auto switch kit still being sold on Amazon? If so, don't buy!

    Maybe China Post is a scam site run by the ATF. [laugh]

    [​IMG]

    https://www.amazon.com/TOOBIT-Accessories-3PCS-Tactical-Rubber-41Universal/dp/B07Q41D8Z8/ref=sr_1_1?crid=24ZIOBT520I75&keywords=glock+full+auto+switch+kit&qid=1555283873&s=gateway&sprefix=glock+fu,aps,136&sr=8-1
     
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  15. drgrant

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    Feds or whoever it was wanted a nice felony wrapped up in a bag, whoever sold him the devices tipped them off and likely walked for
    something else.

    (eta: or USPS has got the shippers flagged?)


    "Add to cart go directly to jail..." [rofl] There's at least a few other ones. "Semi Automatic Continuous Switch" [rofl]
     
  16. drgrant

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    LMAO if it's the same as these... maybe that guy ain't goin ta jail.... [rofl]




    -Mike
     
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    These switches are all over the Internet (China), I had assumed they are scams or the ATF and/or other Maura-ish types.

    ^The Shotgun News!!! When I was a kid I would scoff old issues from my friend’s dad. I completely blame that magazine for my firearm addiction!! It was like a Sears Wishbook for gun lovers...
     
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  18. djbradles

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    Just requires a little fitting. [smile]
     
  20. drgrant

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    Yes, that's what one of the youtube commenters speculated. Does make me wonder though, whether or not a good attorney could cast doubt in regards to it really being a "machinegun part"
    and so forth. We'll likely never see this ever tested because the guy will probably suck for some kind of a plea deal.

    -Mike
     
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    Why are the sources not required to be class 3 FFL's that can only ship to a class 3 FFL? Feels like a Jupiter FL massage gone wild
     
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    A conviction would have been more difficult if instead of opening the package he marked it "return to sender, not ordered" and left it unopened to season for a few weeks in case the door got kicked down.
     
  24. CrackPot

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    80% requires no ffl
    100% can’t ship even to a 07/sot without a law letter
     
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    In September 2004 the ATF decided that a 14 inch long shoestring was considered a machine gun:
    [​IMG]




     
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    He's just doing business the Chicago way. What's the problem?
     
  28. Garys

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    Sounds like a "Cooperating Witness" to me.

     
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    All rubber bands and shoe strings are now ATF NFA items

    Sounds like entrapment to me. Let's see how the Jupiter massage parlor plays out
     
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    There’s gotta be thousands and thousands of switches out there....
     

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