France Building Barricades Again "Gilets Jaunes"

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Will the 'yellow vest' protests push France further to the right? | DW | 23.11.2018
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Demonstrations are nothing out of the ordinary in France. But the yellow vest protests are different. The grassroots movement that sprung up on social networks mostly consists of working-class people who had never before taken to the streets. They are outraged by new fuel taxes, which will make it even more difficult for them to make ends meet. That adds to their feeling of being left behind by the politicians in Paris.

Around 300,000 people demonstrated last week across France. Tens of thousands have continued to block roads, shopping centers and government buildings over the past few days. On Saturday, another large gathering is planned in Paris.

Christophe Chalencon has been blocking roads in the southern Vaucluse department. The blacksmith in his 50s voted for the centrist Emmanuel Macron in last year's presidential election, but now feels betrayed by him.

"Macron is behaving like a king and just doesn't understand us people in the countryside, even though we represent more than 60 percent of the population," he said.
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"More people will vote for the far-right parties such as the Rassemblement National [formerly Front National (FN)]. The current events are amplifying their feeling of exasperation with an elite in the capital that ignores their needs," he said.

Such an outcome should be to the liking of Malik Mahieu, one of the few young protesters taking part in the rallies. The 20-year-old student has been organizing events in the northern town of Lille.

Mahieu used to be a member of the FN and is now part of the far-right populist party Debout la France. He stressed, however, that his actions are not linked to his party affiliation.

"I participate because I see how my parents, like many others belonging to the working class, are struggling to make ends meet. People my age should fight for a better future," he told DW.
The interior minister, Christophe Castaner, said 8,000 protesters had arrived in Paris by mid-morning, 5,000 of them on the Champs Élysées, which had been closed off.

The protest was initially sparked by rises in fuel tax, but has turned into a more general expression of grievances against Macron, who is seen as out of touch with the daily concerns of ordinary French people outside the capital.

The authorities had tried to contain the demonstration around the Champ de Mars, near the Eiffel Tower, and had sealed off a number of roads in the capital, particularly those around the Élysée Palace.
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French 'gilets jaunes' protests turn violent on the streets of Paris
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Violence erupted on the Champs Élysées on Saturday as police clashed with “gilets jaunes” (yellow vests) protesters reportedly infiltrated by the far right.

Gendarmes and riot police used teargas and water cannon to disperse the crowd after they came under a hail of missiles.

The authorities had banned the “gilets jaunes” from gathering at a certain site, hoping to contain what was supposed to be a peaceful protest. The demonstrators had promised to bring Paris to a standstill in this second weekend of protests.
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I’m confuse, are the protesters conservative? And I thought the French just surrendered....
 

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Macron said that he is trying to discourage people from buying cars. You don't see him riding a bicycle everywhere he goes.
That is funny, because the French govt owns around 15% of the Renault shares.

Cars also pay taxes. Where will ther money come from?

Sounds a lot like the US...remember when tastes were encouraging people to purchase electric cars, then charging a tax on those cars for all the lost revenue on the gas tax?
 
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i thought it was more like this?



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Last time i was in paris, we were eating hot dogs under the Eiffel tower, and some gypsy kid walked up and took a big bite out of my son's hot dog. We were all....surprised. but it left an odd image of Paris in all of our minds.
 
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Funny how the French do this to protesting taxpayers but not against Jihadist arsonists during New Years or the invaders at Calais or the gangs in the public housing no go zones.
I think it is because a fuel tax is a direct and perceivedly harsh impact on their daily lives. Rampaging jihadis with AKs or lorries only affects the cities, where people are more conditioned to accept it. Furthermore, news coverage of the jihadis, along with the real conditions in the no go zones is suppressed by the media or else spun into a nativeborn-French-guilt story. Income/property taxes paid annually and/or automatically deducted from your paycheck hide the extent of funding that public housing. There's no hiding a tax on your daily commute and thus your ability to feed your family.
 
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It appears that it's getting real close to a civil war in Paris. I think that the US might partially be an enabler in that we paid more than our fair share in supporting NATO in the past 7 decades. In the meantime, countries like France, Germany, et al, used the money to pay for their socialist programs, globalization (countries without borders), and lax immigration, which is coming back to bite them in the ass now. The Brits saw this coming, which is why they voted for Brexit.

Fresh violence in Paris as riot police use tear gas and batons | Daily Mail Online
 

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I’m confuse, are the protesters conservative? And I thought the French just surrendered....
I would say probably, but the people who started the whole thing said it was not intended to be "partisan" like that, but mostly people who didn't live in the big cities and were basically unfairly punished by this gas tax increase.

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It appears that it's getting real close to a civil war in Paris. I think that the US might partially be an enabler in that we paid more than our fair share in supporting NATO in the past 7 decades. In the meantime, countries like France, Germany, et al, used the money to pay for their socialist programs, globalization (countries without borders), and lax immigration, which is coming back to bite them in the ass now. The Brits saw this coming, which is why they voted for Brexit.

Fresh violence in Paris as riot police use tear gas and batons | Daily Mail Online
WTF does NATO have to do with it? [laugh]

IMHO most of this shit is happening because the people in France were too stupid to elect LePen. If she had been elected, this likely would not be happening right now. Instead they picked a commie, and now now are reaping the benefits of that...

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WTF does NATO have to do with it? [laugh]

IMHO most of this shit is happening because the people in France were too stupid to elect LePen. If she had been elected, this likely would not be happening right now. Instead they picked a commie, and now now are reaping the benefits of that...

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Exactly! Let it burn
 

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IMHO most of this shit is happening because the people in France were too stupid to elect LePen. If she had been elected, this likely would not be happening right now. Instead they picked a commie, and now now are reaping the benefits of that...
Theyre past the point of no return. They elected a commie because they want a commie.
 

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Theyre past the point of no return. They elected a commie because they want a commie.
The latest opinion polls though have macaroon only favored by 1/4 of the people polled. If the election was re run today, Le Pen would probably win in a landslide.

At the time they sucked for a commie because they were complacent. Same way Americans sucked for Obama, etc.

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WTF does NATO have to do with it? [laugh]

IMHO most of this shit is happening because the people in France were too stupid to elect LePen. If she had been elected, this likely would not be happening right now. Instead they picked a commie, and now now are reaping the benefits of that...

-Mike
I guess that my point was missed or I didn't explain it well. What does NATO have to do with it? Plenty! The billions of dollars that the EU didn't pay into NATO every year for decades was spent on its socialist programs that we subsidized by keeping NATO afloat. It's no different than the Free Shit Army we support in the US.

Of course, this is hardly a new phenomenon. U.S. taxpayers have been subsidizing European defense for decades. Indeed, many pundits like it that way. They fret that U.S. allies might go their own way, or simply botch the job of defending themselves. The Wall Street Journal’s Bret Stephens explains, “America is better served by a world of supposed freeloaders than by a world of foreign policy freelancers.”
U.S. Taxpayer Subsidies for European Welfare States Continue
 

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Damn it, now we need someone who knows how to knit. Does anyone still know how to knit? We need a volunteer.
 

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The latest opinion polls though have macaroon only favored by 1/4 of the people polled. If the election was re run today, Le Pen would probably win in a landslide.

At the time they sucked for a commie because they were complacent. Same way Americans sucked for Obama, etc.

-Mike
They teased the f*ck out of me last time. Looked like LePen had a legit shot and then they elect some clown thats banging his aunt. Get the feeling that everythings too far gone. Too many people believe in free shit and the governments seem to be ok with borrowing and printing until the wheels come off somewhere down the line. When that happens theyll probably blame the "free" market and use it to go even further to the left. People will eat it up too.
 

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They teased the f*ck out of me last time. Looked like LePen had a legit shot and then they elect some clown thats banging his aunt. Get the feeling that everythings too far gone. Too many people believe in free shit and the governments seem to be ok with borrowing and printing until the wheels come off somewhere down the line. When that happens theyll probably blame the "free" market and use it to go even further to the left. People will eat it up too.
The thing is that now with this gas tax thing, the scope of the tax is wide. This isn't a typical socialist-lite "oh, we're only going to attack the rich or big corporations blah blah blah, or tax you in an indirect way so that you don't see or feel the tax too hard directly" Instead, macaroon just threw a big cup of urine directly into the face of every french citizen that lives outside of the half dozen or so big dump cities. There is no way the lefties can dance around this fact. That's why this protest etc is sort of a big deal. There's no "explaining" it away or any verbal gymnastics they can really use to justify it. Basically macaroon just stole the radio away from 2/3rds of france while they were listening to it. But he ripped out the plug and just walked away with it. And they saw him do it. He didn't stand there, sulking, leering, and slowly turn the volume up while walking backwards.... or even attempt to conceal what he was actually doing....

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Sunday update:
200 protesters arrested
French Army is ready to go in
L'Arc De Triomphe damaged inside and outside
Germany expressed concerns that this movement may inspire some "alt-right" in Germany
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We should fly our Progressive Horsewomen of Apocalypse to Paris now so they can see our future little bit clearer. [devil2]
 

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After going there 4-5 times a year for several years it is clear that France is having issues. Nice area where you used to go for drinks and dinner became sh*t holes and as more dependent people cane in, taxes have continued to go up. Sort of like Mass on steroids. A lot of the higher end income folks are able to avoid some of the taxes by taking up residence elsewhere but the middle class is getting bent over without lube and are reacting biggly
 

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Sunday update:
200 protesters arrested
French Army is ready to go in
L'Arc De Triomphe damaged inside and outside
Germany expressed concerns that this movement may inspire some "alt-right" in Germany
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We should fly our Progressive Horsewomen of Apocalypse to Paris now so they can see our future little bit clearer. [devil2]
Hillary is on a speaking tour right now.
 
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