Framingham SWAT raid Final Report....

Whats the big deal, the cops knew they were right but just incase they asked for an outside opinion of another cop to double check. Now two top cops say they did the right thing, case closed.
 
In this case, Deputy Chief Craig Davis, who is the team's commander, unilaterally decided to deploy the team because police expected one target, Dwayne Barrett, to be armed, according to the reports.
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Good news, NESers - you too can now feel secure in the knowledge that if anyone comes after you, it won't be a potentially decent family man type, but rather a squad of black suited Ninja types with itchy trigger fingers.
 
lupis42 said:
Good news, NESers - you too can now feel secure in the knowledge that if anyone comes after you, it won't be a potentially decent family man type, but rather a squad of black suited Ninja types with itchy trigger fingers.
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I've felt that way for the past forty years, nothing new here.
 
The Framingham SWAT team served one search warrant in 2006, three in 2007, five in 2008, one in 2009 and four in 2010, Ijames wrote, citing records.

The "minimal number of warrants served by SWAT in the five years (14) prior to the immediate case indicates that the Framingham Police Department is far more restrictive in its overall philosophy on authorizing the use of SWAT than most agencies today," Ijames wrote.

"This infrequent use should not be an indication of whether Framingham needs a SWAT team," he continued. "It is an indication of how focused SWAT command is on using the team only when believed to be truly needed - which should be commended as it is reflective of a level of caution and restraint that I rarely see in agencies today."
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the really sad part is they think that "only" 14 swat deployments is conservative.[rolleyes]
and the only precedent this sets will be that same precedent that's been set many times before: some people are more equal than others.
 
I'd like to offer my services as an instructor for the FPD SWAT Team.

Officers: Keep finger off trigger unless on target and ready to fire.

There we go....all done now
 
"In contrast, my understanding of the matrix is that mandatory SWAT activation only occurs when the weapon involved is believed to be fully automatic, which in this case it was not (handgun)," Ijames wrote
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Ijames wrote, "The mechanical safety is what stands between good intentions and a potentially deadly outcome - but it can only do so when engaged."
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I think Ijames shouldn't be recognized as an SWAT expert anymore.
 
So much fail, they should have come right out and told the truth..
"The poorly trained officer, who should have never had an M4, or any other carbine in his hand, and definitely should have never had his finger on the trigger, mistook Mr Stamps for a dog, so of course, he shot and killed what he thought was a defenseless animal."
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This story is such bullshit, I wonder who the "expert" is, that determined those clowns were "well trained"? Maybe at eating donuts, not much else...
 
TheRoland said:
Over 5 years, it's not that much.
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municipal police depts should not have swat teams. maybe a couple members that are part of a regional team but i really don't support that option either.
if they suspect someone is dangerous enough to require apprehension by swat then maybe the fbi should be doing the capture and not some civilian p.d. swat member.
but the overuse of force wrt swat teams and some of the "criminals" they go after has already been beat to death here.........
 
Oh, they were probably instructed to keep their fingers away from the trigger until they're ready to fire, but like so many of the mall ninjas I've run into over the years, they think that because of their "special" circumstances they're always ready to fire. They haven't got a target; they haven't got any reason to fire, but they're always ready nonetheless. Then again, maybe the instructor just didn't explain it in terms they could understand. Keep your booger-hook off the bang-switch.

Ken
 
bill o said:
I think Ijames shouldn't be recognized as an SWAT expert anymore.
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Why? I'm certainly a critic of police militarization, but having read the full report, though his conclusions were well explained and supported by evidence and expertise.
 
TheRoland said:
Why? I'm certainly a critic of police militarization, but having read the full report, though his conclusions were well explained and supported by evidence and expertise.
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His contradicts himself for one thing. He talks about the finger on the trigger being critical to safety, then gives Duncan a hall pass for pulling the trigger.

Seems like more of the same-o same-o from the thin blue line.
 
TheRoland said:
Why? I'm certainly a critic of police militarization, but having read the full report, though his conclusions were well explained and supported by evidence and expertise.
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Maybe I'm exaggerating a bit. I think the fully automatic weapons quote was a bit odd, but I guess he's just explaining the department's SWAT policy.

His explanation of the mechanical safety is what really caught my attention.
 
To the nazi goon squad jack booted thugs reading this, you're begging for the population to explode....good luck stopping it once it does. What do you think will happen when one of your trigger boys shoot a little kid?

Kind of a dramatization, but you'll get the idea....except this isn't england, we have the second amendment.
 
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1) Any a**h*** who isn't smart enough to keep his finger off the trigger when not ready to fire should not be issued a gun to protect the public

2) Any a**h*** that chimes in as an "expert", says otherwise and goes on to justify the actions of #1 should be shot on site.
 
Ijames wrote, "The mechanical safety is what stands between good intentions and a potentially deadly outcome - but it can only do so when engaged."
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Good to know that my finger off the trigger has no weight when it comes to avoiding a potentially deadly outcome...

If the officer was securing a complying non-target, wouldn't he need both hands for that? By that I mean, to secure his hands would require both hands of the officer, and with no indication of a threat, said officer could do so without reamaining ready to fire.
 
Teknatic1 said:
Good to know that my finger off the trigger has no weight when it comes to avoiding a potentially deadly outcome...

If the officer was securing a complying non-target, wouldn't he need both hands for that? By that I mean, to secure his hands would require both hands of the officer, and with no indication of a threat, said officer could do so without reamaining ready to fire.
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The cop probably wanted to shoot something, felt itchy, couldn't find a dog, so he said "what the hell, this guy looks ripe for the picking, it's not like I won't get a paid vacation out of it ::bang, bang bang:: suspect down, someone call my travel agent"
 

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