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Foundation crack - what do you do?

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  1. Prepper

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    All the rain 2 days ago resulted in my first ever leak into the basement. There's a hairline crack 2 or 3 feet long near the top of the foundation, directly under the one large beam that holds up the whole house. On the outside of the house is a deck, and I noticed the rain was puddling up there and not leaving the area, about 4 inches deep... the highest spot of the leak would be exactly at the top of that water puddle outside. So, yesterday, I crawled under the deck and dug a trench from the house to the far end of the deck, so that the next time it rains, the water should flow out of there. But, that's no guarantee of no leaking in the future. While under the deck, I could not see any crack... it would appear to be fully below the ground.

    So, what does someone do with a crack like this? I'm guessing it has to be fixed from the outside, otherwise whatever goop I smear on the inside would just get wet and fall off? Fixing from the outside would be a pain due to the deck just 18" higher than the ground, although it should be possible to shovel dirt away from that to do.... something... the question is, do what? I tried looking on youtube but that quickly got useless, with people showing 3 inch wide "cracks" being "patched" and such.

    Another useful data point is the house was built with a sump pump pit dug in the corner (not far from this leak), but it was never needed so it is just full of sand. If it would help, I could install a sump pump in here easily enough, to drain away water that would pile up against this crack.

    Here's a close-up and zoomed out. In case you're wondering, that vertical 2x4 is something the previous owners put in there to hold shelves that I removed, and the leak doesn't seem to be coming from that. And that crap on the bottom is, literally, crap... that's the cat litter scoop and where I bag and dump it... not that that's important, but I know NES and someone's going to wonder WTF about that. So, now you know.

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  2. dingbat

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    Just continue to make sure the rainwater has a way to drain away from the house, especially in the winter when snow and ice can dam water against the house. Keep an eye on it to make sure it is not opening any further. Other than that try not to store your rice or oatmeal on the floor there.
     
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    What dingbat said, also you could put a bead of silicon There as well
     
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    You don’t live in western Massachusetts or Connecticut do you?
     
  6. Prepper

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    Southwestern NH, which is just over the border from what many people think of as western MA. It's more central MA than western.
     
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    Looks like they do the injection repairs from the inside. Seems like a good approach for limited problems.
     
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  9. robjax

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    When I lived in my last house there was a crack in the foundation. Called Crack-X to fix it. After the fix it never even got damp. They did a great job.
    It has been a long time since that event but if I remember correctly the fix came with a 10 year warranty. Not sure of that is still the case.
     
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  10. Prepper

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    Can you inject with a hairline crack? Or, do they widen it first?
     
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    Another vote for crack x. Epoxy injection = permanent fix with a warranty
     
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    Foundation crack - what do you do?

    I have one word for you...

    "Flying Buttresses"

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    I am not a math wiz, but when I count on my toes. My count is two words.

     
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    How about now?...


    "Flying-Buttresses"
     
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    Sealing the joint between a bulked (stairs going to a Bilco door) and house was a $850 6 years ago.
     
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    I just had 3 cracks repaired in my foundation. They plastered epoxy with injection ports over the crack then injected expanding foam once it cured. Solved my issues but for the $1900 I paid I wish I did it myself. It would have been about $800 for the kits. As others have stated make sure to keep rainwater away from the foundation. If you are getting a leak that high up maybe your downspouts arent extended enough or you have insufficient pitch away from the house.
     
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    There are no downspouts. But yes, there isn't all that good of a pitch away from the house in spots. Hopefully the trench I made under the deck helps the area around this crack. There's still another area in the back of the house that will still pile up by the back door of the garage and seep into it... I went out there today and ripped another trench about 16 feet long from that area where the water pools up, away from the house... although now I have a new problem, what's a good way to make this trench permanent? Right now I just have a foot deep foot wide 16 foot long hole in the ground. If I fill it in with stones, it'll just ice over in the winter and not let the water drain out. If I leave it there, I have a big hole for people and the riding mower to fall into, plus it looks hideous. Koi pond liner? Perforated pipe? I'm not sure... I should probably post pics of it but it is dark now.
     
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    Yep, I'd pay to have someone repair it... I don't want to mess around trying to get goop into a hairline crack and just make a mess.
     
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    Pics on their site look pretty clear - they drill holes along the crack and use them as injection points.
     
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    Are your gutters clean? Could just be an overflowing gutter from all the wind, leaves and rain.
     
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    I've done my own epoxy crack repair. It was a 4 foot crack, and had been previously repaired so I had to first remove the old crappy repair. I then found the original crack and drilled in 2 inches into the crack using a bit the same diameter of a brass tube (5/16"). I did this every 6" and then once they were all in I back filled the crack with a thickened epoxy mix. Once hardened I injected un-thickened epoxy using a caulking gun I would start at the bottom and work my way up, moving onto the next hole once some epoxy would come out of the hole above it. I would cork the brass tube so epoxy didn't drain out. Once hardened I cut it off flush, 3 years later I have zero problems. I even removed the gutters recently while I do some fascia/soffit work and still no water. For reference, here is a more comprehensive link: Repairing Cracks in Concrete
     
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    ^^^ That's pretty much what these companies do - they just use a compound that pushes out water as it infiltrates the surrounding concrete and then hardens to create a total seal. The 2-thickness epoxy application you did is pretty slick.
     
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    I've never used Crack-X , but I can testify that some of these new epoxies definitely stick together concrete and stone very well.

    A few years back I built a retaining wall using a bunch of square cut granite curbstones - I stacked the things up edge-wise - and glued them together with some Bonstone epoxy made for exterior stone facing. The stuff seems to have held together very well. It's been thru 3 or 4 summers now - and it's been thru the last few winters (last winter was very cold)- and it seems to be holding together great.

    If it was me - I'd get that crack bonded back together somehow. If this Crack-X place can inject epoxy into the crack and they've got good recommendations then it sounds like a good option. It's probably something you could do yourself if you could track down the correct epoxy to use - AND the right method to use to get the epoxy into the crack. It's probably going to entail drilling a bunch of holes into the crack and injecting the epoxy into the holes.

    Drilling small holes in concrete is pretty easy to do with a nice hammer drill BTW. Don't let people tell you it's a nightmare - it's really a "use the right tool" problem.

    As far as the water seepage goes - that looks to me like you've got some very saturated soil there that isn't draining. I've got cracks in my foundation and I don't recall seeing water seepage like that except maybe in the spring when the ground is fully saturated and we've gotten a few days of drenching rain.

    If you're worried about water seepage - you need waterproofing on the exterior of the foundation. I've waterproofed my foundation using a combination of Grace Bituthane waterproofing membrane (similar to Grace Ice & Water shield but made specifically for foundations) - and a drainage mat applied to the exterior. It COMPLETELY solved the water leakage problems I had on my rear foundation wall.

    The hardest part is digging the foundation down - and that's relatively easily solved by renting an excavator. It's even doable by hand if you don't mind putting your back into it.
     
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    Get a cold chisel and a bag of hydraulic cement. $ 20.
    Read the directions on the bag.
    V out the crack line and pack in the mix with a trowel.

    See what happens.

    You can always call the pros in after if it don’t hold.
     
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