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For the plumbers: Hot water heater questions

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by boatman, Mar 21, 2019.

  1. Mike Stanton

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    Rather than Crescent Wrenches, or, God forbid, actual SIZES ?
     
  2. Super99Z

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    He did wrap the teflon backwards, but I can see flux on the pipe plus the can of it is on the backside of the water heater flue.
     
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    i am pretty sure there is a double entendre sexual joke somewhere in there....but it is too early in the morning
     
  4. Mike Stanton

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    What I see is a nasty, fully corroded Dielectric Nipple

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    bring replaced with ANOTHER one !

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    How about parting with an extra buck or two and install a solution:

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  5. Mike Stanton

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    For that matter, there is ALREADY a Coupling on the line.

    Why not heat it up and slip it off ?

    Now there are TWO couplings.

    And in a few years - THREE - FOUR - FIVE.

    Not impressed.
     
  6. Mike Stanton

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    Here's the way to do an install that lasts:

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  7. Mike Stanton

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    That's reassuring.

    But if the intent of these videos is to educate, glossing over a critical step is not good.
     
  8. JJ4

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    This reminds me that my anode rods need to be checked. Hire a pro?
     
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  9. snubnose

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    real clean install, particularly liked the material between the clamps and the tube, I do the same.
     
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  10. Mike Stanton

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    I dunno.

    They are scary hard to break free even when new. I used a SIX-POINT Socket with a long Breaker Bar (Harbor Freight).

    1/2 in. Drive 25 in. Breaker Bar

    It may be wiser to save the $100+ you could be charged for a check towards a new Heater when the time comes.

    On the other hand, draining and flushing is a good idea. And if you have a Plumber over anyways to do that, why not ask him to check the Anode ? If he's willing.

    I'm thinking if checking the Anode cracks the Tank, it would be better if it were already empty.
     
  11. Mike Stanton

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    Thanks !

    I used Silicone Tape.
     
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  13. Coyote33

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    Why do both the hot and cold water have insulation?
     
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  14. Mike Stanton

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    Aesthetics.

    Can't hurt.
     
  15. snubnose

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    Insulating the cold probably will help in delaying a freeze up and will help prevent condensation and heat transfer. Condensation will increase humidity, aid in mold and of course would be a welcome source of water for pests-heat transfer would increase the time for a nice cold glass of water and ever so slightly add to energy costs: depending on the season and dt of the area that the tube passes through .
     
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    Thanks for the heads up. My tank's manual says that if you have a water softener the anode should be checked annually. I assume there's a possibility of early corrosion and failure with softened water?
     
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  17. sevenMMmag

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    Do you have an impact wrench (with square drive to accept sockets)? Makes it easier. Usually the anode rod is torqued in pretty tight.

    I just got an appropriately sized impact socket (i think 1-1/16") from Lowes and put it on my wrench. Hit the anode for about 5 seconds before it broke free.

    Can be difficult using a breaker bar because the water heater is not bolted into the ground, so it will shift as you try to break it free. Sometimes having a 2nd person hold onto the heater while you are on the breaker bar works.
     
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  18. Coyote33

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    Aesthetics? Is this a beauty contest? I think it looks pretty dumb, especially the 1" pieces.


    How much will that 1" of foam "delay a freeze up"? Condensation? Really? How does insulation on a hot water system affect a glass of cold water? I can see doing 4-8 FEET at a time, but these little pieces are INCHES long. This is just silly stuff at this point.
     
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    Amateurs.

    The cold water pipe insulation prevents pipe sweat in the summer.
     
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  20. Mike Stanton

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    I think the little pieces are Cute as F*ck.
     
  21. Mike Stanton

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    Absolutely.

    Condensation Water dripping in the Summer can cause a lot of damage if anything is being stored beneath them.
     
  22. snubnose

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    Understanding the benefits of this piping strategy requires a knowledge that the key lies not in horizontal-vertical distance but in the total surface area and this relationship between sudden molecular acceleration/deceleration acting in concert with static/dynamic hydraulic variances and the Ranque-Hilsch phenomena:


    View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaDQOreFxgc
     
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  23. snubnose

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    Of course slight adjustments should be made for ph-grains of hardness and tube wall thickness and whether or not an open body or drilled water supply is the source as any radon would skew the results.

    Having braided supplies may or may not be a consideration depending on the core material but I'll defer to an expert with regard to this.
     
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    Not to mention the crudely conceived notion of generating power not by the relative motion of conductors and fluxes but by the modial interaction of magneto relucance and capacitive duranctance.
     
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