FL - "Prankster" Shot, Killed By Off-Duty Officer

[william_munny]

Also didn't the Story State that The Officer got into his Patrol car so .. what sort of Thief would intentionally go up to a house with a Cop car in the front or Driveway and ring the bell and see if anyone were home?????

While your logic makes lots of sense to us, criminals aren't always so smart.

 

[06LemansC6]

what sort of Thief would intentionally go up to a house with a Cop car in the front or Driveway and ring the bell and see if anyone were home?????

The same type of idiot that would do a ring and run with a cop car parked in the driveway. The story also stated the cop car had been previously vandalized while parked there.

 

[goofycj7]

Also didn't the Story State that The Officer got into his Patrol car so .. what sort of Thief would intentionally go up to a house with a Cop car in the front or Driveway and ring the bell and see if anyone were home?????

Someone who wanted a Darwin award. Like this idiot: http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1993-06.html

 

[kristo]

Last I heard, Sarasota was the capitol of rich single women.

They even made a sitcom about it. It's called "Cougar Town".

 

[Gonzo]

They even made a sitcom about it. It's called "Cougar Town".

Seriously? That's placed there? I heard about Sarasota when I was in A school in Pensacola in 01. Some second class petty officer gave me a 30 minute speech on why I should go to Sarasota instead of Panama City. Since I want to PC with a bunch of jarheads, I should have listened to the petty officer.

 

[Serapis]

Seriously? That's placed there? I heard about Sarasota when I was in A school in Pensacola in 01. Some second class petty officer gave me a 30 minute speech on why I should go to Sarasota instead of Panama City. Since I want to PC with a bunch of jarheads, I should have listened to the petty officer.

Those salty PO's usually know what they are talking about...

 

[GSG]

Update

Full story at http://www.heraldtribune.com/articl...-shot-by-officer-had-high-blood-alcohol-level

Dr. Russell Vega, who examined the 20-year-old man's body after he was shot and killed last week by an off-duty deputy, said a toxicology screen showed that Spann's blood-alcohol content was 0.216. The level at which a driver is considered intoxicated in Florida is 0.08.

Also, Vega found two bullet wounds, one of them a "contact" wound where the bullet entered his upper torso and was likely fired when the gun was pressed to his flesh.

The bullet, Vega says, traveled through his lung.

A second round was fired several inches to a foot away from the front lower portion of Spann's neck. This bullet traveled through his trachea and lung, and was lodged in the left side of his back, Vega said in an interview with the Herald-Tribune.

"I think you could say that, at no time during the shooting, was the deputy any further than arm's length away," Vega said.

Looks like the physical evidence matches what the witnesses & deputy involved said.

 

[BradM]

.216? Holy crap!

 

[GSG]

.216? Holy crap!

That's nothin'.

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php/87936-I-Think-I-m-In-Love

South Dakota authorities say a woman found passed out in a stolen vehicle may have set a state record with a blood alcohol content of .708, or almost nine times the legal limit.

Meade County State's Attorney Jesse Sondreal says his research indicates that a level of .40 is considered lethal for about half the population, the Rapid City Journal reports.

 

[Palladin]

I want to see the kid's BAC

I bet .18

I called that one!!!

 

[GSG]

Found more info on this, click the links to read the full articles:

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20100422/article/4221063?p=1&tc=pg

By the end of the week, the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office plans to turn over its investigative report to the State Attorney's Office, which will review the case and rule on whether the shooting was justified.

Sheriff's officials say their investigative report will include: testimony from an eyewitness who told detectives that he saw Spann fight with Deputy Carlos Verdoni and try to grab the deputy's gun; statements from Verdoni and Spann's friend, Chris Hayes; and the medical examiner's report, which will show where Spann was shot and how much alcohol was in his system at the time.

It also will contain forensic evidence, such as photographs taken from the window where the witness reportedly saw the shooting.

 

[GSG]

Some more info on this:

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20100417/ARTICLE/4171047/2416/NEWS?p=2&tc=pg

Verdoni, 33, a deputy since 2001, told his superiors that he heard his doorbell ring around midnight and then heard banging on his door around 1 a.m., as he was studying on his computer. Verdoni always parked his patrol car in front of his home, and it had recently been vandalized.

Verdoni was in fear for his life during the fight, and he fired the shots to stop the attack, the sheriff's office said.

A neighbor said that Verdoni and his wife recently had a baby, and that there had been break-ins in the neighborhood.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/articl...E-Deputy-on-leave-after-fatal-Venice-shooting

Initially, Spann complied with Verdoni's request to get down on the ground and stay there, but Spann then became noncompliant, the sheriff's office said.

Verdoni went to his squad car to call for backup when the confrontation escalated. Verdoni told his superiors that Spann tackled him, and Verdoni's head struck the pavement.

Verdoni said Spann then tried to grab the deputy's gun, sheriff's officials said. Verdoni was in fear for his life, and he fired two shots to stop the attack, killing Spann.

http://forums.leoaffairs.com/viewto...k=t&sd=a&sid=81d6aae344e188ec3a5654ea60025aeb

Some interesting info here, like how the deputy was very similar in size to the suspect, how he's had death threats & harassment as a result of this, and how many still don't understand that dept. policy wasn't violated. The investigation is almost wrapped up too.

This last link has an...interesting take on things too.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20100420/article/4201060?tc=ar

 

[goofycj7]

Some more info on this:

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20100417/ARTICLE/4171047/2416/NEWS?p=2&tc=pg



http://www.heraldtribune.com/articl...E-Deputy-on-leave-after-fatal-Venice-shooting



http://forums.leoaffairs.com/viewto...k=t&sd=a&sid=81d6aae344e188ec3a5654ea60025aeb

Some interesting info here, like how the deputy was very similar in size to the suspect, how he's had death threats & harassment as a result of this, and how many still don't understand that dept. policy wasn't violated. The investigation is almost wrapped up too.

This last link has an...interesting take on things too.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20100420/article/4201060?tc=ar

The LEO forum is definately interesting, but not exactly reliable sources. Interesting laguage and requests for mods to lock the threads.

Looks like the investigation was wrapped up a upon the 22nd of April for the Sheriff's dept.
http://www.sarasotasheriff.org/NEWSRELEASES/10-50%20Investigation%20Complete.pdf

Have to wait and see what the AG office comes up with.

 

[Jose]

The Spanns sound like a family that raised their kids to show no respect for others and think that their behavior has no consequences.

You reap what you sow.

 

[Kurtz]

So this kid that does something cowardly like knocking on doors and running, was brave enough to tackle a cop that apparently just got out of a squad car? for what reason would he do this? Something does smell fishy.

 

[pdm]

So this kid that does something cowardly like knocking on doors and running, was brave enough to tackle a cop that apparently just got out of a squad car? for what reason would he do this? Something does smell fishy.

BAC of 0.216, that's why.

 

[GSG]

So this kid that does something cowardly like knocking on doors and running, was brave enough to tackle a cop that apparently just got out of a squad car? for what reason would he do this? Something does smell fishy.

A ton of attacks on police officers happen when a suspect is drunk.

 

[goofycj7]

LAst Update from the Sheriff's office:
http://www.sarasotasheriff.org/press_detail.asp?r=10-060

Officer-Involved Shooting Investigation Concluded
The investigation into the death of 20-year-old Tyler Spann of Venice is complete and the Sarasota County Sheriff’s Office concluded Deputy Carlos Verdoni’s response was lawful and within agency policies. The State Attorney’s Office has concluded that the shooting by Deputy Carlos Verdoni was a justifiable use of deadly force.

Four local agencies were involved in the investigative process, including the Venice Police Department, the Medical Examiner’s Office, the Sarasota County Sheriff’s Office and the State Attorney’s Office.

Speaking at a news conference today Sheriff Tom Knight said, “An abundance of evidence was compiled, including but not limited to forensic evidence that supports a physical struggle in which Deputy Verdoni was tackled to the pavement; forensic evidence that shows a contact gun wound; a blood alcohol test; and several sworn statements, including one from a local physician who was an eyewitness to the incident.

“Based on the evidence and statements, the State Attorney’s Office noted that although Deputy Verdoni did not know who was trespassing on his premises, Mr. Spann knew Deputy Verdoni was a law enforcement officer.”

Sheriff Knight concluded by recognizing the emotionally charged circumstances of the incident and noting that a life has been lost. He asked that the community keep the Spann family in their thoughts and prayers, and at the same time, respect the privacy of Deputy Verdoni and his family.

 

[xtry51]

Dumb drunk gets shot. No real big surprise here....

 

[Jose]

So this kid that does something cowardly like knocking on doors and running, was brave enough to tackle a cop that apparently just got out of a squad car? for what reason would he do this? Something does smell fishy.

Yes, of course. Someone in a drunken stupor has the best decision making ability in the world.

This case is the ultimate conclusion of what happens when you say "hey, hold my beer and watch this".

 

[Titan]

I found this comment from the LEO forum particularly interesting...

...We are all taught in the academy that every confrontation involves an armed suspect because the suspect can get the officer's gun away from him and kill him with it (if he hesitates to shoot)...

Wow, that's quite a 'standard'. When confronted by an unarmed suspect, shoot first, because you should ASSUME that he COULD overpower you and get your gun!

 

[Jose]

I found this comment from the LEO forum particularly interesting...


Wow, that's quite a 'standard'. When confronted by an unarmed suspect, shoot first, because you should ASSUME that he COULD overpower you and get your gun!

Your "standard" exists only in your imagination.

 

[GSG]

I found this comment from the LEO forum particularly interesting...


Wow, that's quite a 'standard'. When confronted by an unarmed suspect, shoot first, because you should ASSUME that he COULD overpower you and get your gun!

The first part of that statement is correct, the second is poorly phrased or poorly thought out, and wrong. A lot of cops get killed with their own guns, and it's common over stupid little crap charges like this kid was facing too.