WTF is up with shops with policy’s in place that ignores the releasing a transfer after the three days of delay/no response thing and won't release until given a ‘proceed’?
Something I now know to ask up front...
Who/what scared them into it?
The backstory, yes it's somewhat of a rant…;
So I’m buying a shotgun from an acquaintance who resides a ways north in NH and I’m in MA so an ffl transfer is/was required.
Being the nice guy he is, he’s concerned that if we do the transaction up there I may get delayed and have to drive back up there again so he volunteers to drive down this way and has some errands he needs to do here anyway.
Shooters in Amherst was geographically convenient and open, did the paperwork and hung around for a while waiting for the NICS response… It’s generally been a crapshoot for me and of course I got delayed, oh well, happens more so than not so half expected it anyway.
Literally as I turned around to head toward the door to leave, the counter employee said something like ‘Oh yeah, you have to sign this too’, sliding a half sheet of paper across the counter.
It’s a form stating that I agree to their policy of holding the gun until they get a proceed, no three day grace.
I’m sort of taken aback by it and of course question wtf is this and why didn’t you tell me about something this significant up front before I wasted all this time here, I would’ve certainly gone somewhere else like 619.
Got a sort of ambiguous apology/explanation of how someone/something or other says they can get in hot water if they release the gun and then get a denial after the fact. I ask what happens if they never get an answer seeing what a mess the nics system is in and nobody knows.
Looking into it a bit afterwards it seems it’s not just shooters but a fair number of shops in both NH and MA are adopting this policy.
Everything in me said don’t sign and GFY and go do it somewhere else but the seller who was kind enough to drive down to me was already headed home, on a timeline and would be quite inconvenienced to have to turn around and do it all over at another shop. Not even sure if I could’ve backed out of it cleanly at that point anyway. So I take the chance and sign… Really pissed me off… In retrospect it made me feel like a pussy that I didn’t refuse, at least just to see how they’d have handled it then.
A month goes by and nothing so I had to go back and do another 4473 as the first one expired… A couple/few more weeks go by and still nothing… I occasionally stopped by when I’m driving through the neighborhood and bugged them, employees were understanding and apologetic but claimed their hands were tied on the issue.
Finally today after 6-7 weeks they cave, someone signs off on it after confirming my stuff is still current/valid and I finally get my gun. Never did get an answer back from the feds… Have to wonder how long that would’ve gone on…
I’m curious as to who/what's behind this.
Is there a perpetrator behind seemingly Massachusetts attorney general like tactics of fear and intimidation by ambiguous threats of ‘trouble’ or whatever?
Was there maybe an 'incident' that touched this off?
Something I now know to ask up front...
Who/what scared them into it?
The backstory, yes it's somewhat of a rant…;
So I’m buying a shotgun from an acquaintance who resides a ways north in NH and I’m in MA so an ffl transfer is/was required.
Being the nice guy he is, he’s concerned that if we do the transaction up there I may get delayed and have to drive back up there again so he volunteers to drive down this way and has some errands he needs to do here anyway.
Shooters in Amherst was geographically convenient and open, did the paperwork and hung around for a while waiting for the NICS response… It’s generally been a crapshoot for me and of course I got delayed, oh well, happens more so than not so half expected it anyway.
Literally as I turned around to head toward the door to leave, the counter employee said something like ‘Oh yeah, you have to sign this too’, sliding a half sheet of paper across the counter.
It’s a form stating that I agree to their policy of holding the gun until they get a proceed, no three day grace.
I’m sort of taken aback by it and of course question wtf is this and why didn’t you tell me about something this significant up front before I wasted all this time here, I would’ve certainly gone somewhere else like 619.
Got a sort of ambiguous apology/explanation of how someone/something or other says they can get in hot water if they release the gun and then get a denial after the fact. I ask what happens if they never get an answer seeing what a mess the nics system is in and nobody knows.
Looking into it a bit afterwards it seems it’s not just shooters but a fair number of shops in both NH and MA are adopting this policy.
Everything in me said don’t sign and GFY and go do it somewhere else but the seller who was kind enough to drive down to me was already headed home, on a timeline and would be quite inconvenienced to have to turn around and do it all over at another shop. Not even sure if I could’ve backed out of it cleanly at that point anyway. So I take the chance and sign… Really pissed me off… In retrospect it made me feel like a pussy that I didn’t refuse, at least just to see how they’d have handled it then.
A month goes by and nothing so I had to go back and do another 4473 as the first one expired… A couple/few more weeks go by and still nothing… I occasionally stopped by when I’m driving through the neighborhood and bugged them, employees were understanding and apologetic but claimed their hands were tied on the issue.
Finally today after 6-7 weeks they cave, someone signs off on it after confirming my stuff is still current/valid and I finally get my gun. Never did get an answer back from the feds… Have to wonder how long that would’ve gone on…
I’m curious as to who/what's behind this.
Is there a perpetrator behind seemingly Massachusetts attorney general like tactics of fear and intimidation by ambiguous threats of ‘trouble’ or whatever?
Was there maybe an 'incident' that touched this off?
