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"Fast And Furious/Gunwalker" mega-thread... was: ATF director expected to resign...

Trial begins Wednesday.

This has and continues to hold the government to no accountability. I can not could imagine what Agent Terry's family has gone through.


N4T Investigators: Judge rules to keep Operation Fast and Furious out of Terry murder trial

When a jury gathers next week for the trial of two men charged with the murder of a U.S. federal agent, it will not hear any details of how two guns found at the murder scene were part of a U.S. government-sanctioned weapon program, a federal judge has ruled.

Friday morning, U.S. District Court Judge David Bury agreed with U.S. prosecutors to keep the details of Operation Fast and Furious out of the upcoming trial for the murder of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.

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If the government brings up the origins of the guns found, Bury ruled that defendants can then bring up Fast and Furious.

Bury ordered the defendants "not to refer to ... or elicit any testimony regarding Operation Fast and Furious. Understood?"

Earlier this week, U.S. prosecutors also proposed a series of questions for jurors: "Has anyone been exposed to publicity from any source pertaining to the death of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry?"

It then stated in its proposal: "Although not relevant to the charges against the defendants in this case, has anyone heard of an operation conducted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms commonly referred to as "Fast and Furious?"

Finally, the United States wrote: "If any jurors answer either or both questions in the affirmative, the United States requests that the court conduct an individual inquiry of that juror outside the presence of the other venire members."
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http://www.kvoa.com/story/30065028/...on-fast-and-furious-out-of-terry-murder-trial
 
Sentenced.

2 men get life terms in border agent's 2010 death


Astrid Galvan, Associated Press 2:46 p.m. MST December 9, 2015

TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) — Two men convicted of first-degree murder in the killing of a Border Patrol agent whose death brought to light a bungled federal gun-tracking operation known as Fast and Furious were sentenced to life in prison Wednesday in Arizona.

Terry's death exposed the Fast and Furious operation in which federal agents allowed criminals to buy guns with the intention of tracking them. But the agency lost most of the guns, including two that were found at scene of Terry's death.

The operation set off a political firestorm, led to congressional investigations and became a major distraction for President Barack Obama in his first term.

The judge in the murder case restricted any mention of Fast and Furious.

Terry was part of a four-man Border Patrol team from an elite tactical unit that had been in the desert for two days on a mission to arrest so-called rip-off crew members who rob drug smugglers along the border with Mexico.

As they came across Sanchez-Meza, Soto-Barraza and three others, an agent yelled "policia!" The bandits refused to stop. An agent fired non-lethal bean bags toward the thieves, who responded by firing from AK-47-type assault rifles.

Terry never had a chance to fire. He died of a gunshot wound that entered through his back.
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[halfmast] May he rest more soundly tonight.
 
Federal Judge Obama Appointed Strikes Down His Fast and Furious Executive Privilege Claim

After significant deliberation U.S. District Judge Amy Berman has struck down Obama's assertion of executive privilege over documents pertaining to Operation Fast and Furious, the Department of Justice program that allowed the sale and trafficking of thousands of weapons to violent Mexican drug cartels. Berman was appointed to the Court by President Obama in 2011. POLITICO has the details:
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I expect the Administration to appeal this to the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, so we probably won't see a resolution until after Obama is out of offer.
 
I do like how the quote "The .50 cal rifles can take down a helicopter" - and the Grenade launcher on the M-16 (no doubt an acquisition from the Mexican Military on our dime as well) is no issue. Wait, what is that I see next to the Barrett - AN RPG !!!! No those don't take down helicopters.
 
There haven't been any updates in this thread for over a year, I'm bumping it because this new story came up, which only reinforces what we suspected all along. The criminals in Mexico are still getting the bulk of their guns from the Mexican military and police, which are rife with corruption.

http://www.fosters.com/news/20170604/mother-pleads-with-us-to-stem-flow-of-firearms

Mother pleads with U.S. to stem flow of firearms

PORTSMOUTH — “My purpose in coming here is to ask for mercy,” Maria Herrera Magdaleno, a Mexican mother of four “disappeared” sons, told a group gathered at the Discover Portsmouth Center on May 21.

She is pleading with the United States and companies like Sig Sauer in Newington, which has a $266 million multi-year contract, to stop selling firearms to the Mexican military because the military cannot prevent the guns from falling into the hands of violent drug traffickers and the corrupted police and military units that protect them.
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After presenting their thoughts at the Discover Portsmouth Center, meeting with the Seacoast Media Group editorial board on May 22 and then with representatives of U.S. Sens. Jeanne Shaheen and Maggie Hassan and Congresswomen Carol Shea-Porter and Annie Kuster, the group traveled to Washington where its members urged members of Congress to work to stop weapons sales to Mexico because, in their view, it is a corrupt state that cannot ensure weapons sold to the military will not wind up in the hands of criminals, used to terrorize and kill innocent civilians.
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The United States’ last effort to track the end users of weapons smuggled into Mexico ended badly.

Under a “gunwalking” program that came to be known as “Fast and Furious,” the ATF ran a series of sting operations in Arizona where it allowed gun dealers to sell firearms to illegal straw buyers and then tried to track the guns in Mexico where they hoped to arrest Mexican drug cartel leaders. While some arrests were made, the ATF lost track of thousands of weapons, some of which were used by drug traffickers who shot and killed Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, 40, in Tucson, Arizona, in 2010. “Fast and Furious” guns were linked with numerous crimes against Mexican citizens. The U.S. Department of Justice confirmed in March 2016 that one of the guns found at the hideout of Mexican drug lord Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, came from the “Fast and Furious” operation.
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So we U.S. govt stop selling/giving Mexico weapons so if the Mexican govt has half a brain they'll just go to someone else Russia,China and possibly Isreal. The Israeli's might surcome to pressure from the U.S. but China and Russia they'll ignore any protests from us and or anyone else. Not saying we should or shouldn't as this is the norm for the corruption that is the Mexican govt.
 
We should stand in solidarity with this Mexican woman.

it would be fitting for all of us to go to the Mexican border with 1 brick , all Americans will place 1 brick in the wall to keep out the Mexican drug trade.

then the Mexican military will not be tempted to sell guns to drug smugglers.

problem greatly mitigated.

MAGA.
 

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