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Fallriver Ma is red now what
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The unfortunate thing is the issuing PD holds jurisdiction over your gun license until it expires regardless of moving out of the town/city. Your son-in-law may not see an unrestricted license until he submits for renewal with the new PD.
Perhaps we should have two classes of citizens, like Heinlein envisioned in Starship Troopers?
Should people who have served, receive some benefits for that service? Yes. Should those benefits include rights that are denied to other citizens? NO.
I have never served, but I have a high degree of respect for those who have. It is my understanding that people who serve, frequently do so to preserve rights for all Americans, not just themselves or their fellow service members. If this is not true, then Orwell was right about some animals being more equal than others.
Should people who have served, receive some benefits for that service? Yes. Should those benefits include rights that are denied to other citizens? NO.
I have never served, but I have a high degree of respect for those who have. It is my understanding that people who serve, frequently do so to preserve rights for all Americans, not just themselves or their fellow service members. If this is not true, then Orwell was right about some animals being more equal than others.
NO! I think all gun restrictions are pure BULLSHIT! and a violation of our GOD GIVEN RIGHTS. PERIOD! The Constitution codifies those rights and NO ONE should be able to infringe on those rights. PERIOD
Unfortunately we have been asleep at the wheel and we have allowed those ass sucking weasels that have attached themselves to our wallet to bully us into thinking that they know better than we do. Now WE have to live with the frikin system that WE allowed to happen. Until WE can change it back to what it SHOULD be peacefully and, if necessary, with "refreshing the tree of liberty". WE have to live with our own stupidity!
With all that said, A person that has put his stones on the block deserves additional consideration under the currently ****ed up system that is in place. He earned it!
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Knob Creek
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Yeah he knows that. But getting out of Fall Riv is a good thing for so many reasons
I did this, well kinda, my uhaul was a POS, and smelled like it too, but you get the idea. Move out of that moonbat guanno festering ph*k tarded miserable shite hole, at your first chance.
Thank you for your service.
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So really, you mean "Yes!"
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Please read closely and try to see the nuance
1) Gun restrictions are BULLSHIT
2) NO Citizen should ever be restricted from owing a firearm (that includes felons!)
3) Our license system is ****ed up
4) people that have served their county deserve some consideration in our ****ed up licensing system for their sacrifice (it is substantial in some cases)
and the questions was "you feel that service members have a higher claim to 2A rights than the rest of us"
No they don't have a higher claim but they do deserve consideration under the system that has been forced upon us.
GOT IT?
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If you really agreed, you would admonish the system and leave it at that. Your "well, under this system, yes..." is contradictory.
Maybe I didn't admonish strongly enough and we have to live under the system that WE have allowed to be created. We are all law abiding citizens to a point.
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You guys are cockfighting over a system that shouldn't exist, and latitude that will NEVER be granted.
The really red towns in this state hate LEOs not from their own town, so you can forget about current or ex military EVER having special consideration, making the argument somewhat moot.
You guys are also missing the point of these laws and the mindset of people who restrict licenses. They exist to **** with people and reduce the number of licensees. They don't care how much anyone "deserves" a license anyways.
So all of this "ex XYZ123 should get better treatment" stuff is pissing into the wind. It's not happening. Not to mention people like "Big Sis" consider vets a security risk. Ponder that one for a moment. [sad2]
-Mike
The really red towns in this state hate LEOs not from their own town, so you can forget about current or ex military EVER having special consideration, making the argument somewhat moot.
You guys are also missing the point of these laws and the mindset of people who restrict licenses. They exist to **** with people and reduce the number of licensees. They don't care how much anyone "deserves" a license anyways.
So all of this "ex XYZ123 should get better treatment" stuff is pissing into the wind. It's not happening. Not to mention people like "Big Sis" consider vets a security risk. Ponder that one for a moment. [sad2]
-Mike
I see your point, and understand where it comes from (I think). I have a great deal of respect for those who volunteer to serve our country. Where I have a problem is in a red city like Fall River, if you even get issued a LTC, it has BS restrictions on it. I think it's fair to say that someone with firearm training courtesy of the USMC meets and exceeds the basic requirements of gun safety. But to go past that and say that because someone was in the service, they should jump over the rest of the population, and get a no-restriction LTC because of that, I believe is wrong.
So I guess we are in agreement with 1, 2, and 3. Partial agreement on 4.
FreeWillie, I understand what you're saying and the sentiment behind it. If MA law were changed tomorrow to say that all vets shall be issued an an LTC-A for ALP it doesn't address the real problem. All it would do is create another protected class of people with more rights than others. We already have the "suitability" stupidity in MA, where 351 feudal lords get to determine rights for the residents of their little feifdoms.
I'm not trying to attack you. I'm just frustrated with a system that dermines people's rights based on geography. I don't want any more band-aid patches. The existing system is broken. Like diseased tissue, it needs to be removed so the body can heal.
I'm not trying to attack you. I'm just frustrated with a system that dermines people's rights based on geography. I don't want any more band-aid patches. The existing system is broken. Like diseased tissue, it needs to be removed so the body can heal.
I'm not saying they should "jump over the population". I'm saying the whole license thing is bullshit! You shouldn't need to have a license to own a firearm. PERIOD! But given the system that WE have let those asswipes on Beacon Hill force on us, I think military personnel should get a pass on some things. That's it, nothing more.
Lip
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Umm what ever. I caught my self going all r lee emery on your dumb keister.
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