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What is the real differences between the FAL and the CETME? Is the CETME just a Spanish copy of the FAL? Anyone have any experience with either/both of them?
Thanks guys.
Scott, did you buy or build? Any insight on building?
Built. Still have most of the tools. IMO/E, not as easy as an AR. Easier than an AK. Tons of good, step-by-step info out there.
ETA: I don't want to give the impression that it take specialized tools. I have a receiver wrench and barrel vise, used for barreling the upper receiver.
I had a CETME a few years back. Chambers are fluted to assist in extraction. Gives the cases a series of marks where the flutes are. Pretty dirty also as hot gas is flowing in the flutes. Brass is reloadable as I did it regularly. Just looks funky with the straitions but the brass is solid. Really needs good cleaning also.
The FAL and CETME, what's the deal?
The CETME sucks, the FAL less so.
Kind of odd statement on two battle rifles (FAL and G3) that at one point or another were in use by damn near every country in the free world.
The CETME mostly gets a bad rep as being a shi**y/cheapskate alternative to a G3 or a G3 clone, mostly because CAI has done a hatchet job on so many of them.
-Mike
I've owned an FAL. Decent rifle, but not what I would call the best .308 semi-auto. I've shot a HK, not a CETME, but close enough. The height of German firearm design was the Mauser. Enough said.Kind of odd statement on two battle rifles (FAL and G3) that at one point or another were in use by damn near every country in the free world.
I've owned an FAL. Decent rifle, but not what I would call the best .308 semi-auto. I've shot a HK, not a CETME, but close enough. The height of German firearm design was the Mauser. Enough said.
Those two designs may have been used by damn near every country in the free world, but not the greatest damn country in the free world.
Both pale in comparison to the M14, in my view.
The M14? The Garand-in-a-different-caliber-with-a-magazine? That one?
The M14 design was measured and found to be "Meh" by numerous countries. At one point the FAL was truly the "Free World's Right Arm," and while the ergonomics of the G3-pattern rifle don't work for me, you can't swing a dead terrorist without hitting a country still using that weapon. They weren't bought for the price, not when compared to the "please take this and be our friend" price of M14s. And the "superior" M14 is being used...where again?
Admitedly, I don't know much about the CETME/HK, but I do know a little about both the FAL and the M14. I prefer the M14. It's a better rifle.The M14? The Garand-in-a-different-caliber-with-a-magazine? That one?
The M14 design was measured and found to be "Meh" by numerous countries. At one point the FAL was truly the "Free World's Right Arm," and while the ergonomics of the G3-pattern rifle don't work for me, you can't swing a dead terrorist without hitting a country still using that weapon. They weren't bought for the price, not when compared to the "please take this and be our friend" price of M14s. And the "superior" M14 is being used...where again?
I don't have/like an iPhone, but I have to admit that a million-billion-jillion users must be onto something.
When I shot the HK, I found the recoil to be more noticeable than the FAL & M14. Hard to explain; not harsh recoil, just more drawn out.I agree with the poor ergonomics on the CETME/G3 controls. Heavy trigger, backwards safety (vs AR15), no provision for forward assist. My CETME was big, heavy, and made by Century, but it was 100% reliable and was a real gentle-shooting .308.
I agree with the poor ergonomics on the CETME/G3 controls. Heavy trigger, backwards safety (vs AR15), no provision for forward assist. My CETME was big, heavy, and made by Century, but it was 100% reliable and was a real gentle-shooting .308.
That's the roller-delayed action of the CETME/G3 design: http://www.hkpro.com/index.php?opti...nal-operation&catid=4:special-topics&Itemid=5When I shot the HK, I found the recoil to be more noticeable than the FAL & M14. Hard to explain; not harsh recoil, just more drawn out.
If I had to choose CETME or FAL, I'd go FAL.
Never had I wanted to like a rifle more than a G3, and each time I pick it up I'm frustrated on just how wrong the fit is for me. I don't know if it arms too long, too short, hands too big, too small, whatever. No matter how many times I try that rifle, it's like trying on a bad-fitting suit.