Exploding Glock

[Devils Paintbrush]

As an owner of multiple glocks, I have always been amused by the banter on this forum about exploding glocks.

Apparently even Gaston Glock was worried about the same thing when designing his pistol...ooh the irony.


"That I knew nothing [about guns] was my advantage," Mr. Glock said in an interview. He bought a number of handguns and disassembled them in his workshop, examining each component for its function while weighing potential improvements. He made prototypes and test-fired them with his left hand; if he was maimed by an explosion, he could still draw blueprints with his right. The product of his efforts was a nine-millimeter semi-automatic pistol that he designated the Glock 17 because it was his 17th invention.


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052970204257504577149913689465528

 

[dove]

I actually just learned this two days ago when I took the Glock Armorer's Class. We were all cracking up

 

[OCB]

You'd think someone mechanically inclined enough to design a gun could design a mechanism to fire it remotely.

 

[whacko]

You'd think someone mechanically inclined enough to design a gun could design a mechanism to fire it remotely.

You think?

But....but.....its glock perfection so he should not have even been worried about his guns exploding

 

[warwickben]

You'd think someone mechanically inclined enough to design a gun could design a mechanism to fire it remotely.

Never spent much time with engineers , you'd think they would just get a vise and string.
Every new one that I get stuck working with design fixtures at my work to bend tube into a coil and get a 1k+$ quote to have it machined out side . They show the plan to me and I just find bar stock the right size and wrap it around.

 

[OCB]

I'm an engineer, actually. I specialize in coming up with over-complicated solutions to non-problems.

 

[GaryO]

Never spent much time with engineers , you'd think they would just get a vise and string.
Every new one that I get stuck working with design fixtures at my work to bend tube into a coil and get a 1k+$ quote to have it machined out side . They show the plan to me and I just find bar stock the right size and wrap it around.

Should have used a coffee can and wrap the tube around that!

 

[warwickben]

Should have used a coffee can and wrap the tube around that!

It would of crushed it .

It slipped and spun and hit my hand lol .

 

[cekim]

I'm an engineer, actually. I specialize in coming up with over-complicated solutions to non-problems.

Never forget budget and consuming it as a design constraint.

 

[cekim]

It would of crushed it .

It slipped and spun and hit my hand lol .

Good thing you didn't outsource it to someone else's insurance plan.

In a quote dubiously attributed to Einstein, but brilliant none-the-less:

The solution should be no more complex than necessary.... but not less.

Your injury indicates the solution was slightly less complex than necessary...

 

[boiler_eng]

Design for manufacturability isn't a priority in training today's engineers, according to me someone who recently got an engineering degree. Learned most of what I know about manufacturing by working in a machine shop actually trying to physically do things.

 

[OCB]

Never forget budget and consuming it as a design constraint.

I used to do a lot of R&D for the DoD, so yeah...

It would of crushed it .

It slipped and spun and hit my hand lol .

that's what the fixture was for

 

[warwickben]

If I started it on the other end to wrap it the same direction the floor would of applied the pressure to wrap it . I was just being a dumb ass lol .

 

[boilermaker]

It would of crushed it .

It slipped and spun and hit my hand lol .

Your thumb nail is freaking me out. Never seen any nail so short

 

[SeanC77]

Design for manufacturability isn't a priority in training today's engineers, according to me someone who recently got an engineering degree. Learned most of what I know about manufacturing by working in a machine shop actually trying to physically do things.

Time working in a machine shop should be mandatory for an engineering degree...it might help cut down on the amount dumb stuff we see on prints.

 

[Viper22]

Time working in a machine shop should be mandatory for an engineering degree...it might help cut down on the amount dumb stuff we see on prints.

I'm with ya on that one.

 

[Slapshot]

Time working in a machine shop should be mandatory for an engineering degree...it might help cut down on the amount dumb stuff we see on prints.

So true.

 

[Garys]

I'm an engineer, actually. I specialize in coming up with over-complicated solutions to non-problems.

I worked for a lot of non engineers who did the exact same thing.

 

[Steve Marshall]

SeanC77, as a retired Mechanical Inspector, I will have to say you hit the nail on the head.

What do you call an engineer on the bottom of the ocean?
A good start.
To paraphrase Gen. Sheridan- " The only good engineer, is a dead engineer."

We send men to the moon. Good engineers. We build cars that last several 100,000 miles. Good engineers. We build aircraft carriers, we build power grids, we build skyscrapers. Good engineers. And then we have Mechanical Engineers in the machining industry. Please refer to the 2nd paragraph.

When I first started, there was a newish idea called Geometric Tolerancing. What a logical concept. Everything was UOS, @ MMC ( Unless Otherwise Specified and Maximum Material Condition). Life was good. Easy to fabricate, easy to inspect and easy to assemble, who could ask for anything more. Now, everything is at True Position of .001". If lucky you get MMC. And even then you are usually working with a +/- .0005 hole. The worst are the medical device guys followed by the microwave crowd. And heaven forbid you question these self-proclaimed Gods. Try explaining to a Medical Device Engineer on an invasive device that can't leak, the error in specing out a .050" deep, 0-80 hole in material that is .060" thick. The solution? After telling you that, by God, that's what they need and just do your job and work around it? Since there are few Inspectors that could honestly inspect the part, you convince Your engineers to smoosh everything over. And then you tell your machinists to smoosh it over some more. The design Engineer is happy, their idiot inspectors are happy and you sit there waiting for the shoe to drop.

Refer to the 2nd paragraph.

 

[weldingmachine]

It would of crushed it .

It slipped and spun and hit my hand lol .

Don't work around machinery with those sleeves, you are going to rip your arm off! (If you are lucky...)
This is one of the less graphic vids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9grSq-TWMQ

 

[warwickben]

Don't work around machinery with those sleeves, you are going to rip your arm off! (If you are lucky...)
This is one of the less graphic vids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9grSq-TWMQ

Not gonna watch lol .

I was on my way to the er so I tossed my sweat shirt on that I had in the shop. Sleeves are like that from welding etc .

 

[namedpipes]

Don't work around machinery with those sleeves, you are going to rip your arm off! (If you are lucky...)
This is one of the less graphic vids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9grSq-TWMQ

Not for nothing, but couldn't machinists just wear those stripper outfits? You know the ones. Knock on the door, police girl comes in and says you're all under arrest, then with one rip, the outfit is gone and the striptease starts.

I was going to post a youtube clip but got a little distracted looking for just the right one.

 

[warwickben]

Not for nothing, but couldn't machinists just wear those stripper outfits? You know the ones. Knock on the door, police girl comes in and says you're all under arrest, then with one rip, the outfit is gone and the striptease starts.

I was going to post a youtube clip but got a little distracted looking for just the right one.

Lol
Short sleeves , and not being a dumb ass has got me this far ....

I'm not worried about getting sucked in to a lathe or mill. I'm more worried about a lathe throwing a part out. Or tooling shattering in the mill.

The burning got chips and be sprayed with oil and coolant you get used to.

I wish I could post pics of my friends chest. Her cleavage has little burn marks from the twisted chips .

 

[boiler_eng]

It comes down to a few things like no gaurontee the machine is pulling in the direction to break Velcro and even if it breaks away who says it won't come around and whip you in the face.

Also, yeah flying stock trumps clothing stuck in. One time a grad student had a big peice of aluminum fly out of his lathe and was confused why he got hip checked out of the way. (Because I had to turn the machine off and throw him out.). He also had trouble understanding the "someone could have died" part.

 

[vicpinto]

I'm an engineer, actually. I specialize in coming up with over-complicated solutions to non-problems.

So you work for the .Gov then?

 

[warwickben]

It comes down to a few things like no gaurontee the machine is pulling in the direction to break Velcro and even if it breaks away who says it won't come around and whip you in the face.

Also, yeah flying stock trumps clothing stuck in. One time a grad student had a big peice of aluminum fly out of his lathe and was confused why he got hip checked out of the way. (Because I had to turn the machine off and throw him out.). He also had trouble understanding the "someone could have died" part.

I do a job , I take a 8mm bolt and turn a section down to 5mm and thread it. My cutter must of got dull or some thing . The bolt flexed , end popped from the live center and then the bolt went flying . Some stuff I get asked to make and then explain I can do it but need to make a holder . Engineers say just hold it in the jaws.
I have a draw of parts to show them why not todo that lol .

 

[namedpipes]

Lol
... I wish I could post pics of my friends chest. Her cleavage has little burn marks from the twisted chips .

It's medical purposes, not porn. The mods won't mind. Just post the pics

I've got a wicked dangerous lathe in the basement, MADE of wood. The, um, chucks(?) you put the workpiece between is driven by a v-belt connected to an electric motor. The bed is a portable wooden workbench. It's a man killer, I'm sure. I'm too chicken to use it.

 

[warwickben]

It's medical purposes, not porn. The mods won't mind. Just post the pics

I've got a wicked dangerous lathe in the basement, MADE of wood. The, um, chucks(?) you put the workpiece between is driven by a v-belt connected to an electric motor. The bed is a portable wooden workbench. It's a man killer, I'm sure. I'm too chicken to use it.

Lol it's not like that. I don't have pics of her chest.

 

[Zappa]

I'm an engineer, actually. I specialize in coming up with over-complicated solutions to non-problems.

Ever hear of a guy named Rube Goldberg ???

http://www.rubegoldberg.com/

Not gonna watch lol.

That guy can brag to all his friends that he got lathe last night.

They showed us this industrial safety movie in tech school, it was made in 1970, I watched it again recently just for kicks.

Shake Hands With Danger

 

[Fixxah]

I always liked the one where Lucky has the table saw pitch a length of wood as he catches. Ouch.