Expired LTC - What Now?

[DKAN]

My father-in-law's LTC expired 2/15 of this year. He's no longer a MA resident so he will not be renewing. (Or should he?)
I some time searching the forums and found a few threads that state there is a 90-day grace period for expired licenses with no active renewal app, which should allow him to legally transfer them.

Is it possible to transfer ownership of his firearms to me?
If yes, how?
If no, what are we supposed to do with the firearms?

 

[jct61765]

If he's no longer a Massachusetts resident, how could he renew his LTC? Where are the guns?

 

[daekken]

As written this makes no sense. Is he living somewhere like Florida but left his guns at your house or something?

If he's not a resident he'd have to go non-res anyway which doesn't have the grace period.

Need more details...

 

[DKAN]

I guess it would be an out of state license...
Locked up in a safe.

 

[DKAN]

Yes, he actually does live in FL now, but does not want the guns anymore. He said if they could be transferred to me then I could have them.

Scrambling, and I'm quite the novice when it comes to the in's and out's of gun laws.

 

[one-eyed Jack]

Looks to me that he's loaned his guns to you for sporting purposes. Jack.

 

[DKAN]

Looks to me that he's loaned his guns to you for sporting purposes. Jack.

:emoji_thumbsup:

 

[swatgig]

The 90 day grace period is only good as a defense against carrying without a license. Someone with an expired LTC cannot use the gun portal to report a transfer.

 

[babygorilla]

But he LOANED them to you prior to his leaving the state, CORRECT? And they are currently in your possession, RIGHT? So he just wanted to make it official for you to be the owner, RIGHT?

 

[LuvDog]

You’re borrowing them for now. Have him put them in a will.

If you want to actually register a transfer now then the next time he is in state. Take them all to an FFL and transfer then

 

[AHM]

My father-in-law's LTC expired 2/15 of this year. He's no longer a MA resident ...

Did he "... notify, in writing, the licensing authority who issued said license(/such card), ... and the executive director of the criminal history systems board of any change of address. Such notification shall be made by certified mail within 30 days ...", as the law requires for LTCs and FIDs?

If you want to actually register a transfer now then the next time he is in state. Take them all to an FFL and transfer then

And if the FFL can't or won't transfer any of them (AR's, Glocks, ...) to a Mass resident, OP is scrod.

 

[Len-2A Training]

Transfers between residents of 2 different states is prohibited by Federal Law. All such transfers must go thru an FFL, per Federal Law.

 

[DKAN]

Did he "... notify, in writing, the licensing authority who issued said license(/such card), ... and the executive director of the criminal history systems board of any change of address. Such notification shall be made by certified mail within 30 days ...", as the law requires for LTCs and FIDs?

Negative

And if the FFL can't or won't transfer any of them (AR's, Glocks, ...) to a Mass resident, OP is scrod.

Glock/AR/Mosin - So, I take it I'm scrod?...


The general consensus here is that he completely failed to take action in the time required and is SOL.

What's my next move here folks?

 

[Racenet]

Guns? What guns?

 

[jeepchute]

See babygorilla and the first half of LuvDogs answers.

 

[AHM]

Did he "... notify, in writing, the licensing authority who issued said license ...

Negative

I'm unqualified to advise on the best remedial action,
but someone else on NES may (may) supply the right good advice.

The right good advice probably was given to someone else in the past,
but I wouldn't know it if I tripped over it.

Glock/AR/Mosin - So, I take it I'm scrod?...

Hmmm. See above.
(Hope that's not a trend).

See babygorilla and the first half 45% of LuvDogs answers.

FTFY.

(Unless @DKAN is the sole heir),
he should be very very sure that the will explicitly says
"@DKAN (by name) gets all the guns".

(This is where some (other) non-lawyer will chime in
and claim that the guns have to be enumerated in the will,
but I've never seen convincing proof of that).

But if (say) @DKAN's father predeceased his mother and she was sole heir,
then her saying "Paw would want you to have the shootin' arns"
does not constitute "being willed the guns".

Rather; if (if) The Man stuck their nose into the estate,
they'd conclude that his mother was willed the guns,
and she tried to give them to him
(i.e., other than via the bequest of the decedent).

 

[jct61765]

Negative


Glock/AR/Mosin - So, I take it I'm scrod?...


The general consensus here is that he completely failed to take action in the time required and is SOL.

What's my next move here folks?

You could have kept it off a public forum and went on with life.

 

[ISOTOX]

 

[LuvDog]

I go back to the first part of my comment. You are borrowing them and he should explicitly state that they are willed to you upon his death.