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Plus I hear you can get reloads.Just shoot at printer cartridges that are empty. Any gun will do.
Plus I hear you can get reloads.No, I want a gun that uses printer cartridges as ammo.
You forgot more people who consider themselves law abiding will determine the government is passing immoral laws and will just decide to do what they want.There will be collateral damage:
1. Linsky will finally get a gun bill of his passed.
2. Finishing 80% lowers will be a thing of the past
3. Owners of existing homemade guns may be required to serialize them
Judge blocks Texas company from putting plans to make 3D guns onlineIn granting a preliminary injunction, Judge Robert S. Lasnik of United States District Court in Seattle wrote that Mr. Wilson’s First Amendment rights “are dwarfed by the irreparable harms the states are likely to suffer if the existing restrictions are withdrawn and that, overall, the public interest strongly supports maintaining the status quo through the pendency of this litigation.”
"It is the untraceable and undetectable nature of these small firearms that poses a unique danger," Lasnik said. "Promising to detect the undetectable while at the same time removing a significant regulatory hurdle to the proliferation of these weapons — both domestically and internationally — rings hollow and in no way ameliorates, much less avoids, the harms that are likely to befall the states if an injunction is not issued."
A lawyer with the U.S. Justice Department had argued against the injunction, saying possessing 3D plastic guns is already against the law, and the federal government is committed to enforcing that law.
https://agportal-s3bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/95_OrderGrantingMotionPI.pdf"While the court appreciates the earnestness with which this commitment was made at oral argument, it is of small comfort to know that, once an undetectable firearm has been used to kill a citizen of Delaware or Rhode Island or Vermont, the federal government will seek to prosecute a weapons charge in federal court while the state pursues a murder conviction in state court," Lasnik said.
"Undectectable" firearms could conceivably be brought into courtrooms, and put certain people at risk, which is likely the main motivation to prevent their existence.
Yes, but aren't undetectable guns already illegal?
And in exactly what way is a 3d printed gun undetectable anyhow?
Separate comments, I think. He seems to be referring to the undetectable firearms act that says if it's invisible to metal detectors and xray, it's verboten. Also, a gun that's simply printed is already detectable, so the hubbub is moot.Not they're not illegal. You can make your own gun and no serial number is required
Not they're not illegal. You can make your own gun from any materials your want and no serial number is required. So undetectable and "unregistered'
Yes, but aren't undetectable guns already illegal?
And in exactly what way is a 3d printed gun undetectable anyhow?
Regulation under the AECA means that the files cannot be uploaded to the internet, but they can be emailed, mailed, securely transmitted, or otherwise published within the United States.
An undetectable gun is not Constitutionally illegal. It is against a law (undetectable blah blah blah act of 1988) to make a gun that is undetectable. Yes, you can make it of any materials you like, so long as the end result is detectable as defined by that (idiotic) law.
BUT NONE OF THE PLANS IN QUESTION PRODUCE AN UNDETECTABLE GUN.
That law is meaningless because everything is detectable.
... say you found a way to make a gun from wood. It would be illegal because a metal detector could not detect it (assuming it were unloaded or maybe used those ceramic casting)
so did anyone actually looked into printing one of these? I found one file is simply f***ed up, it's not in any recognizable scale. The other problem is parts aren't well design to be printed with common printers, i.e. having long overhangs or spans in midair.
This is a like a f***ing theater, one dude wants to publish shitty files for something that's totally useless and a judge who wants to ban to publish useless files. It's like a gay dude telling lesbo woman that he wants to have sex with her and the woman screaming for help. Lots of noise about non-issue.
This is a like a f***ing theater, one dude wants to publish shitty files for something that's totally useless and a judge who wants to ban to publish useless files. It's like a gay dude telling lesbo woman that he wants to have sex with her and the woman screaming for help. Lots of noise about non-issue.
ZOMG! Ordinary machine shops are "sophisticated" illegal gun factories!!!!
UK police find 'sophisticated' illegal gun factory
So maybe Defense Distributed just starts making flash drives that come loaded with all the plans. Maybe they start an email list where they just send you everything when you sign up.So one's speech is acceptable only in certain mediums. Imagine if a judge said posters on DU cannot post speech there but can only email it. The left would go ape.
Also, I want to point out how retarded the judge is. "uploaded to the internet" What idiot even uses such language to describe this? How old is this judge?
So maybe Defense Distributed just starts making flash drives that come loaded with all the plans. Maybe they start an email list where they just send you everything when you sign up.
Text - H.R.6649 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): 3D Printed Gun Safety Act of 2018SEC. 3. PROHIBITION.
Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:
“(aa) It shall be unlawful for any person to intentionally publish, over the Internet or by means of the World Wide Web, digital instructions in the form of Computer Aided Design files or other code that can automatically program a 3-dimensional printer or similar device to produce a firearm or complete a firearm from an unfinished frame or receiver.”.
This, right here, is what never needs to see the light of day.
Text - H.R.6649 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): 3D Printed Gun Safety Act of 2018
Going after 80% lowers now.