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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Zappa, Jun 9, 2019.
The plane was enroute to Hanscom:
Two Killed in Long Island Plane Crash, but Dog on Board Survives
I don't get people and their little private planes. I mean, if I were to own one, I'd only fly it M-F, 8a-5p. Seems like no one dies in a small plane crash at those hours. It's always the weekend or overnight.
I look at the work that a commercial airline pilot goes through before take-off and wonder, "how many of these people hop in and just go. Pull a Jon-Jon. Like it's a boat and if the engine conks out, you just call SeaTow."
I mean, I hate driving my boat across the freaking lake for crying out loud. The engine conked out on Friday and I was in a not-normal wind that would NOT push me back to home. Thankfully my trolling motor did it's job - albeit 100x slower.
If I owned a plane, I'd have a very competent mechanic going over the thing with a fine-toothed comb every time I took it out. And a crap-ton long checklist before I took off.
yeah, i know what you mean. i've only known one person with a private license who owned their own plane. i flew with her once to pennsylvania. she was all over that plane before we finally left the ground. i remember saying "enough already, lets go." now that i'm older and wiser, i'm glad she did what she did before we left.
I've noticed a few that conk out shortly after takeoff. A pilot friend says it's usually because someone forgot to turn the gas line valve, so there's only enough in the line to get off the ground. They say John Denver crashed because he couldn't reach the lever for the reserve tank.
You think that's bad, I am BUILDING my own airplane. Putting a Corvair Engine in it too!
This is fishy. I'd be taking a close look at that dog's financials.
I only have a few hundred hours SEL. You do thorough pre flight and landing checks, watch your fuel and weather and DON'T TAKE ANY CHANCES. Jack.
you don't think someone took out an insurance policy on him recetly, do ya?
Hope you rethink the gasoline heater.
I bet the dog ate well before rescuers arrived.
Super. If I were 50 yrs younger I might do the same. Can you set up that engine for dual ignition? Jack.
Sounds like statistical bias, more private operators are probably going to be flying when they're not at work... Also if you can afford to fly M-F 8-5 you're probably wealthy enough that you're not in a
rush to go anywhere. WX ever so slightly shitty? f*** it, we'll just fly tomorrow. Oh its gusting slightly? nope, we'll wait. etc.
A gun analogy would be like "most gun injuries and "accidents" happen while hunting, so why would I ever want to go hunting?" etc. A huge sample of many thousands of people clomping around in woods with loaded guns is going to have a different accident frequency number vs "johnny 1-2 hrs on a square range america. "
Preflight on a piston single takes 10 minutes, max.
He landed on the airbags.
Well, maybe. Sometimes you have to do weight and balance and fuel calc. Jack.
Sure, but I put that in the category of flight planning rather than pre-flight of the airplane.
Right you are, Kevin. Jack.
My Best Man/Elmer worked on Wall St. at the time,
and was going to fly (Teterboro?)/Chatham that very same evening.
He looked at the weather (murk) and decided, "how about no; no works for me".
(Because the dope who built the kit plane put the valve behind the pilot's left shoulder).
Remember the Gulfstream IV jet that crashed on takeoff at Hanscom back in 2014 ???
These "professional pilots" skipped a few items on the check list and it didn't end well:
Multiple failures led to Hanscom crash, NTSB says - The Boston Globe
I'd read swaths of the NTSB report some seasons ago,
and I wouldn't have trusted those idiots
to hitch a tent camper to a Galaxie 500 on a Friday afternoon.
This one still wins
Aircraft crashes after crocodile on board escapes and sparks panic
KR2S. Wood Foam and Fiberglass construction. Design was one of the first composite airframes
from the '70s.
We do a redundant ignition with a coil joiner with a single distributor and plugs.
Video from one of our Gatherings at Mount Vernon, Ill.
As meticulous as one can be performing a preflight, Sh*t still happens.
So will the dog need a therapy dog the next time it flies? ... or maybe a peacock!
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