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Many GSD police dogs got stabbed and critically injured; some survived surgery while others died from knife wounds. I seriously doubt that the average criminal is an accomplished knife fighter and they were likely carrying cheap knives but the damage was done. Best fighting knife is a razor sharp Bowie with a fully sharpened false edge for the back cut. A proper Bowie can disembowel a dog or a man with one solid thrust.
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NES: "OMG, ACAB THEY WILL SHOOT YOUR DOG, ESPECIALLY THE ATF!!"
Also NES: "STOP DOG FIGHTS WITH BULLETS. IF DOG RUNS OFF DEER YOU WANT TO SHOOT, SHOOT THE DOG. IF DOG LOOKS AT YOU FUNNY, SHOOT IT!!!"
Jeezus, WTF...
For OP, bear spray / mace should do the job and won't likely create any legal hassle whatsoever. Using a gun should be a last resort and in case the other dog owner is in hot pursuit of the escapee you might want to consider he/she might be carrying as well in case you have the apparent NES knee-jerk "solve all problems with bullets" approach.
As I said multiple times, we're dog lovers. I have zero desire to shoot a dog, but I won't hesitate to defend my family from a "mortal" danger. I'm not going to debate with you. I'll just say that a 110lb woman has zero chance against a 100lb GSD if that GSD is determined to attack, never mind multiple assailants. There are also multiple aggressive GSD's on our walking route. I won't let this happen to my wife or kid and if this happens to me, I'll escalate until the problem is resolved. This whole encounter has raised my awareness of threats I didn't take seriously enough (hence why I wasn't carrying). We're pretty lucky I was walking with my wife as usually she walks alone. Same for my son as we often take turns with the dog.
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The guy is obviously a real dick. If mine gets loose it will be accidental and if it attacks others my focus will be on stopping MY dog, no matter what it takes.Seems to be the consensus. Mace/Bear spray, maybe a stun gun. A folding knife and a big stick. Last resort would be a firearm.
you might want to consider he/she might be carrying as well in case you have the apparent NES knee-jerk "solve all problems with bullets" approach.
I was very aware of that very fact, especially given that the owner was very close to engaging me hand-to-hand. He had his right hand cocked back to swing as he got within reach of me. My guess is he wasn't armed, but you never know how something like this could turn out. Here's the thing. At the end of the day, someone draws down on me for shooting their dog who is attacking me or my family, it's going to be a bad day for everyone involved and I'll just leave it at that. This does bring up the need for a spare magazine, given my legal capacity for my G19 is 10 rounds (I don't CC with pre-bans) and while I don't plan on getting into a shootout during a dog walk, we can see what not planning ahead for worst case gets you.
As I said multiple times, we're dog lovers. I have zero desire to shoot a dog, but I won't hesitate to defend my family from a "mortal" danger. I'm not going to debate with you. I'll just say that a 110lb woman has zero chance against a 100lb GSD if that GSD is determined to attack, never mind multiple assailants. There are also multiple aggressive GSD's on our walking route. I won't let this happen to my wife or kid and if this happens to me, I'll escalate until the problem is resolved. This whole encounter has raised my awareness of threats I didn't take seriously enough (hence why I wasn't carrying). We're pretty lucky I was walking with my wife as usually she walks alone. Same for my son as we often take turns with the dog.
Woman, 69, fatally mauled by 3 dogs while walking home
The three dogs believed to be responsible have now been euthanized.
You are saying your life was in danger and you didn’t dump 3 x 10 round mags on the dog??????
I have been there done that with OC, and yes it's sucks.That's why I don't want to take some of the hit while I am dealing with a dog.I've used guns, tazers and spray. For a dog attack I suspect the majority of cases spray would be the best.
And when you use spray you'll probably get hit with a little of your own magic, especially if it's up close or even a tad bit windy.
Being hit by splatter/mist from spray is super annoying, but its about 5% of the fun of being hit directly in the face.
if you want to find out I can meet up with you and taze you. After you get up and yell about how much that hurt I'll hit you with spray and come back in 3 hours when your still screaming about your face
OC is hell in a bottle. And it's not like 30 seconds of hell like a tazer. It's like 5 hours of being 100% miserable. And the 1st 30 minutes of it are really, really bad. OC gets very extreme retreat behavior out of the animals it hits, which is the hallmark of it. Every ounce of your body says "run away" and the entertaining part is it's next to impossible to keep your eyes open after theyve been sprayed, which is why there are so many videos of people running into things while trying to escape.
That would be the "normal" response. Both my wife and I were astounded by the guy's initial response. Keep in mind, his wife was in a complete panic and just trying to get control of her dog, whom she couldn't catch, while apologizing profusely. Made me think there might be some screws loose with him. We love our dog, but if she was attacking someone or another dog, like you, I'd be doing everything in my power to stop it. He completely ignored the situation, to the point that as he is winding up to hit me and I'm squaring off at him, he's yelling at me that our Pit Bull is obviously dangerous (while leashed and under my control). I yelled back right in his face to get control of his psycho dog that just ran out into the street completely uncontrolled while pointing out my dog is leashed.
A tazer will drop you for sure. Hell, most of the real problems with tazers is how people get wiped out when they hit the ground. They can't brace and they will fall awkwardly which can result in some big injuries.
The threat was ended when I shoved it under my truck.
Seems like troll...
Then I'd lose? I didn't get trained fighter vibes from this guy. First off, who charges in to a fight with his right fist cocked back for a haymaker. I mean I saw it coming from literally yards away and was able to drop into a defensive stance with one arm ready to block the attack. I'm no Don Frye despite having come close to earning my black belt in Tae Kwon Do back in the day. Second, I'm younger than the dude by at least 10-15 years, possibly more and had probably 50lb on him. Granted I'm not in fighting shape any more and definitely need to lose some excess weight, but the reality was in the time I sized him up, I didn't view him as a threat at all. I was more worried about the dog (until I thought what if the crazy guy is armed).
It will , but believe or not , you open yourself up for federal charges.
I have pepper sprayed 3 dogs that came after my dog and I on a walk. Worked great and had cops called on me twice. Once the police found that the dogs were unleashed and mine was, no problem and a warning for the irresponsible dog owners.
Honestly, when it comes to defending my life or the life of a loved one, I would take whatever action is necessary for defense and worry about the consequences later. If the necessary action involves deadly force, well, it is what it is. Hand me my citation for criminal court and see you there. At least I'll be alive to show up and answer the bullshit charges!
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