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Doctors and Asking about guns...Glob today
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fencer
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If my PCP asks me if I have guns at home, it will be the last visit I have with him.
My PCP is from the rural hills of NC. I don't think it's occurred to her that I might NOT have guns. Our Pedi has never asked. He's far more concerned with the health of our children
I offered my 9-year-old daughter $10 if she uses this response if our PCP asks. She agreed, but then like the smart girl she is, she asked if I knew how to clear one. I told her I would find out before her next appointment.
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I like this one too.
The problem is that all medical records are now required to be computerized. Info is transmitted to insurance companies, Medical Records Bureau (info for sale on most residents of the US - located in Westwood MA in a non-secure location), and eventually to the US Govt.
So when your doc asks these questions, you can count on a notation in your medical record which will be made available to others w/o your permission or knowledge.
There be the problem!
So when your doc asks these questions, you can count on a notation in your medical record which will be made available to others w/o your permission or knowledge.
There be the problem!
When you walk into our family Dr.'s office the first things you see are stuffed animals, old tin gun advertising signs, arrowheads, knives, human and animal skulls, old boxes of match ammo and gun magazines .
Walk into the one examination room and there is a huge poster of all of Colt's handguns. The other has various paintings and photos of hunting dogs and shooting scenes.
No problems here.
Walk into the one examination room and there is a huge poster of all of Colt's handguns. The other has various paintings and photos of hunting dogs and shooting scenes.
No problems here.
i am guessing that the only advice they would give you would be to: keep the gun unloaded and in a place that is not accesible to kids. I know, thats common sense, but most people dont have any. Ex: last weeks cop leaving his gun on the trunck of his car and losing it.
Besides, a lot of advice from certified instructors is crap.
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You guys realize this is all being driven by the MIB for purposes of gathering intel for the insurance companies - right?
This isn't new.
In 1996, I had to take a school-required physical from a pediatrician. I was giving two page questionare of Yes/No questions that included something along the lines of "Are their any guns in your home". It was the only thing on the questionare that I answered Yes to. The doc just asked if they were locked up and that was it. At the time, I was 15, had my FID, and was part of the junior program at the MRA.
I had to get physicals for school in 2001 (changed schools) and 2002 (college entrance requirement). The same exact questionare was used all three times.
In 1996, I had to take a school-required physical from a pediatrician. I was giving two page questionare of Yes/No questions that included something along the lines of "Are their any guns in your home". It was the only thing on the questionare that I answered Yes to. The doc just asked if they were locked up and that was it. At the time, I was 15, had my FID, and was part of the junior program at the MRA.
I had to get physicals for school in 2001 (changed schools) and 2002 (college entrance requirement). The same exact questionare was used all three times.
Twigg
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Amazing how many are conditioned to answer any question posed by a supposedly trusted figure.
What happened to "Question Authority" ?![[thinking]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/010.gif "Thinking [thinking]")
No matter who's drivin' the bus you can bet SOMEBODY'S making a list and checking it twice.
and it ain't Santa Claus.
What happened to "Question Authority" ?
No matter who's drivin' the bus you can bet SOMEBODY'S making a list and checking it twice.
and it ain't Santa Claus.
Amazing how many are conditioned to answer any question posed by a supposedly trusted figure.
What happened to "Question Authority" ?
No matter who's drivin' the bus you can bet SOMEBODY'S making a list and checking it twice.
and it ain't Santa Claus.
That's my problem with this question. If the answer ONLY stayed with the doctor and went no further (and we could guarantee that), I'd have no problem answering it honestly. On the other hand, I don't like the next step which is giving unqualified advice to get rid of everything. You can gun-proof kids by proper training, but hiding them or getting rid of them leads to trouble when they see one and have no clue what to do safely.
You could also simply request that the doctor concentrate on HEALTH and let you take care of SAFETY. While the two concepts are certainly linked into what we might call "well-being", the responsibility of maintaining the latter is directly related to freedom and liberty. I have no problem letting my doctor advise and counsel me on my HEALTH but I refuse to delegate my freedom and liberty. My SAFETY and how I maintain it are my own business.
Chris
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How hard is it to answer "that's none of your business"?
RichM
Retired Army Veteran
The difficulty with non-answers is that they'll get recorded as positive responses on the form. Maybe it's best to refuse to answer earlier questions so as to not single out that question as problematic.
... and yes, it really stinks that we want to lie about exercising one of our fundamental rights so that our doctors and insurance companies don't someday use that information against us...
... and yes, it really stinks that we want to lie about exercising one of our fundamental rights so that our doctors and insurance companies don't someday use that information against us...
I went to one of my Dr's and he had his NRA coffee cup proudly displayed on his desk. It was good to see that. I shoot with some of his other DR friends from time to time.
As far as a DR running down a long lists of do's and don'ts I don't have a problem with them mentioning securing your guns when not there with kids in the house.
As far as a DR running down a long lists of do's and don'ts I don't have a problem with them mentioning securing your guns when not there with kids in the house.
Garys
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Garys
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Not very hard at all, you can even do it and not be nasty about it. My doctor asked me about guns once. I told him yes. He asked me if I kept them loaded. I told him they weren't any use to me if they were unloaded. That was the end of the conversation because he got the point.
As Rich said, a non-answer will be recorded in the national computer database as a yes.
If they ask and you don't want the knowledge public, you must answer no.
If you are curious what would come next if you'd answered yes, you can add that you are planning on getting one and welcome any advise they have.
seanc
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In all likelihood, you will NEVER get the complete record. You will get some sort of redacted-sterilized, fit for your non medically trained consumption.
Doctors write all sorts of notes during each visit. The only way you'd ever get the complete complete un-redacted version would be with a court order.
