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Did Chris Kyle have a special secret drivers license: calling police database experts

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Reptile, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. Reptile

    Reptile NES Member

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    He told the robbers that he just needed to reach back into the truck to get the keys. He turned around and reached under his winter coat instead, into his waistband. With his right hand, he grabbed his Colt 1911. He fired two shots under his left armpit, hitting the first man twice in the chest. Then he turned slightly and fired two more times, hitting the second man twice in the chest. Both men fell dead.

    Kyle leaned on his truck and waited for the police.

    When they arrived, they detained him while they ran his driver’s license. But instead of his name, address, and date of birth, what came up was a phone number at the Department of Defense. At the other end of the line was someone who explained that the police were in the presence of one of the most skilled fighters in U.S. military history. When they reviewed the surveillance footage, the officers found the incident had happened just as Kyle had described it. They were very understanding, and they didn’t want to drag a just-home, highly decorated veteran into a messy legal situation.

    The Legend of Chris Kyle - D Magazine

    Is that for real???
    How, in this internet age of face recognition and AI, could a person have a drivers license like that?
    Would such a database entry look so suspicious that it would hinder privacy rather than protect it?

    Fascinating thread here discussing confidential plates and secret ID's...
    https://www.northeastshooters.com/xen/threads/intersting-situation-worcester-ltc-issuance.303276/

    China stole all the government personal files...
    Office of Personnel Management data breach - Wikipedia

    Even political VIP's have their private information all over "online people search" websites.

    AT&T accused of selling customers’ location data to bounty hunters and stalkers
    AT&T Accused of Selling Customers’ Location Data to Bounty Hunters And Stalkers | Digital Trends

    I know this post covers a variety of "Secret ID" topics but I'm curious what the NES hive thinks.
     

  2. wmass

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    Me thinks you need to unplug for a while.
     
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  3. Len-2A Training

    Len-2A Training Instructor Instructor NES Life Member NES Member

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    [rofl]

    To OP:
    I don't know but a good friend of mine stopped a lady one night for speeding and ran her DL. Later he got a call from USSS asking why he ran Carolyn Kennedy's DL! Turns out she had a DL with a fake name and USSS was monitoring any activity on that DL. [This happened many years ago.]
     
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  4. Reptile

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  5. SERE

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    He only carried that ID when he was working for the Arkancide Division.

    Wouldn't usually mess up a thread like this but this one is sooo far off track already.
     
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  6. dans

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    Wasn’t this an episode of Person of Intetest?
     
  7. Reptile

    Reptile NES Member

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    Sounds interesting...

    Have any more info on that episode?

    Art imitates life. I'd like to know more about that show.
     
  8. ProGun

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    Long time (now deceased) friend of my wife's family was a local cop in NJ. One time Reagan or George HW Bush (I forget which) was in town and he decided to run a car or two in the President's motorcade. He did get a call from USSS. He never did that again, lol.
     
  9. dans

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    I have been binge watching the show recently. It’s mindless and has a lot of action and implications to today’s world. I can’t cite a specific episode but The “action” described by the OP surely would make for “exciting TV” fit for the show.

    In other words, I was not serious.
     
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  10. weekendracer

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    Probably ranks up there with Chuck Norris's third fist in his beard.
     
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    The "legend" is pretty much that.
     
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    That entire story was a fabrication
     
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    enbloc NES Life Member NES Member

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    I carry a card...

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    ...and a key.
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    LOTS of lies out there about Chris Kyle. Sadly, some of them came from him.

    Too bad. The truth should have been good enough.

    And, OP? If you really think there's some dude who sits around at the DoD waiting to answer phone calls from cops so he can alibi random SEALs, and that the cops will just shrug off two homicides because the random DoD dude says so? Yes. You DO need to get out more.
     
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    Ok, thanks for setting me straight.
    The dude who sits around to answer calls from SEALS at DoD sounded fabricated. Like, what if he has to take a bathroom break and an important call comes in.
    I guess Chris Kyle may have embellished some of his exploits.
     
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  16. Tackdriver

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    I do know of circumstances where one does get fake govt. credentials. Not sure why it would apply to Kyle though.

    Dave
     
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    Long story short, in 1979 a friend of mine (and his family) went on the Federal Witness Protection Program (He was the witness) and the U.S. Marshalls messed it up so bad that his widow and son testified before Congress. (The testimony is on-line) My friend, his wife, son and daughter-in-law (plus his infant child) were issued new consecutive Social Security numbers and the drivers were provided new driver's licenses. However, the vehicles registrations and the vehicles insurance was still in their old names. They had to drive from NY to Texas and when they asked about what to do if stopped along the way and asked about the discrepancy between the Licenses and registrations, they were given a number of a U.S. Marshall to call. When they got to Texas, they found out that agent was on vacation! My friend was Frank Calimano. The whole thing is a sad story.(On the program he lost his veteran status too.)
     
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    I'm not sure I'd say "embellished." I'd say "made up."

    If you believe the internet, he accepted Lee's surrender at Appomattox, rode to warn Hancock and Adams that the Regulars were out, fought the Chicago Fire, flew the Enola Gay, and, sadly, died at the Alamo while using his SOG mini-pup to try to slash Santa Anna's throat.

    The truth SEEMS TO BE that he was an actual SEAL sniper who was pretty good at his job. Good at making difficult shots under pressure. Comfortable with shoot/no shoot decisions. Good at tactical patience. Maybe not so good at readjusting to civilian life. Again, it's sad to me that he and his partisans didn't think all that was enough, somehow.
     
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  20. Reptile

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    A family with consecutive SS numbers is bogus. The mother and father if from the same state could have the 1st 3 numbers the same. The next 2 correspond by code to year of issue. The kids could not naturally be consecutive since they were born much later. Anyone who saw all those SS numbers at the same time would know somethings amiss.

    I do know of 2 people who have consecutive numbers...

    2 friends walked into the SS office at the same time and they were next to each other in line. The numbers were issued consecutively.

    Nothing can be kept secret if it is written down.
    Some time ago there was a breach of the witness protection program and hundreds of secret names and data was stolen.
     
  21. Woodsy

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    They are not secret, I have one.
     
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    This is the gayest thing I have read on NES in a long, long time.

    Like this might be gayer then that time we trolled that one old dude into rage-coming out of the closet when h0bama made being gay in the military ok.
     
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    Secret identity records?
    Unpossible.
     
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    Here's a hint for those who don't recognize this (late) amateur radio operator:

    I don't know if he ever won any ham radio contests,
    but I'm sure he would say that he coulda been a contender.
     
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    I don’t know about fake IDs and such.

    But I’m pretty sure that the DOD does keep track of current and former special forces. It’s not like there’s a ton of them.
     
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    Everyone’s gotta have a hobby, I guess.
     
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    Pretty much this.

    Actually, thinking about it, I can think of one reason. There was a bounty on him. But even if he was white listed, that is not the call you get. You might get to someone with that kind of detail about who he was, but not that quickly, and if he was on a list to protect his identity, that would be horrible opsec to out him to anyone.
     
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    If something like this ID ever did exist, I wonder if anyone ever had one later revoked and the records expunged. You'd then have someone sitting in jail going on like a crazy person how they were some top secret super soldier who had a license to kill, but it would just come off as crazy as there would be no evidence to support the claim.
     
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