Deposit required for ALP

[blindndead]

My town requests for ALP,
•All-Lawful Purposes
You must clearly demonstrate a need for an all-lawful purposes license. This should be stated in your letter requesting a License to Carry Firearms. If the basis for the request is because of threats, then proper court documentation and/or police reports must be submitted. Deposit slips would be required for carrying large amounts of cash. Etc.
Whats to stop someone from putting cash in a account and every month take it out and re-deposit it to generate a deposit slip,It dont get it...

 

[wolf223]

idiots!

 

[GOAL C.M.]

What town/city is this?

If you can, please email me documentation from the PD that states this nonsense. [email protected].

Thanks

 

[Reyn]

I just wrote my letter stating that fact that I have a responsibility to protect my family and I want no restrictions. (and I got it)
Same town BTW.

 

[blindndead]

It Is from the FRPD website.
http://www.frpd.org/firearms.html

 

[FSTC]

My town requests for ALP,
•All-Lawful Purposes
You must clearly demonstrate a need for an all-lawful purposes license. Whats to stop someone from putting cash in a account and every month take it out and re-deposit it to generate a deposit slip,It dont get it...

Short answer...nothing.

If you must demonstrate a "reason" How about that you routinely legally transport firearms to and from recognized shooting facilities
or (if you have a C&R ) are a "Federally licensed collector of firearms" and attend "sanctioned collector events"
Perhaps you have a small child or elderly relative that requires you to frequently visit local pharmacies .

IMO you shouldn't have to "sell" the need for ALP.

Good Luck

 

[KMS]

What a shit hole state....I realy feel for you folks.I'm low on cash atm but as soon as I get some extra I plan on donating to goal and com2a.I would do everything in my power to leave that state no matter what it took.

 

[blindndead]

Sorry guys I have a class A restricted . I was just getting some info for a friend of mine and I was reading the FRPD website and I thought it was a lame request on the part of the PD.

 

[Realtor MA]

My town requests for ALP,
•All-Lawful Purposes
You must clearly demonstrate a need for an all-lawful purposes license. This should be stated in your letter requesting a License to Carry Firearms. If the basis for the request is because of threats, then proper court documentation and/or police reports must be submitted. Deposit slips would be required for carrying large amounts of cash. Etc.
Whats to stop someone from putting cash in a account and every month take it out and re-deposit it to generate a deposit slip,It dont get it...

Nothing to stop you if you want to file a fraudulent application.

 

[bill o]

It's well known that Boston requires bank documentation if you're requesting ALP as a business owner.

 

[drgrant]

My town requests for ALP,
•All-Lawful Purposes
You must clearly demonstrate a need for an all-lawful purposes license. This should be stated in your letter requesting a License to Carry Firearms. If the basis for the request is because of threats, then proper court documentation and/or police reports must be submitted. Deposit slips would be required for carrying large amounts of cash. Etc.
Whats to stop someone from putting cash in a account and every month take it out and re-deposit it to generate a deposit slip,It dont get it...

Nothing. Congratulations, you just figured out how to game a "Box" town.

-Mike

 

[drgrant]

Nothing to stop you if you want to file a fraudulent application.

There's nothing fraudulent about it. If you want to make it "more legit" withdraw like 2000 bucks, drive around for a day with it on you once a week and put it back in, if it makes you feel better about it.

-Mike

 

[mousegunfan]

It is unlawful to shoot someone over property in MA. So what darn difference should it make if I have $5 or $50,000 in my pocket? Dead is dead weather over $5 or $50,000. Plus, the guy with only $5 probably lives in a more dangerous place.

 

[atmay]

It is unlawful to shoot someone over property in MA. So what darn difference should it make if I have $5 or $50,000 in my pocket? Dead is dead weather over $5 or $50,000. Plus, the guy with only $5 probably lives in a more dangerous place.

I think the idea is that if you carry a lot of cash/expensive stuff around for work, you're more likely to get robbed, and if you're more likely to get robbed, you're more likely to end up dead/dismembered as a result of that robbery, so I guess you can be allowed to carry a gun.

See? The City does wonderful things for its denizens.

 

[el duderino]

My town requests for ALP,
•All-Lawful Purposes
You must clearly demonstrate a need for an all-lawful purposes license. This should be stated in your letter requesting a License to Carry Firearms. If the basis for the request is because of threats, then proper court documentation and/or police reports must be submitted. Deposit slips would be required for carrying large amounts of cash. Etc.
Whats to stop someone from putting cash in a account and every month take it out and re-deposit it to generate a deposit slip,It dont get it...

It sounds like they want slips if your asking for one on a work basis, and you would have to show a few slips up front, not keep bringing them slips to prove you still need the license. Still stupid though.

 

[Boston_Shooter]

I think the idea is that if you carry a lot of cash/expensive stuff around for work, you're more likely to get robbed, and if you're more likely to get robbed, you're more likely to end up dead/dismembered as a result of that robbery, so I guess you can be allowed to carry a gun.

See? The City does wonderful things for its denizens.

Exactly, it's not to protect the cash (property), it's that because you do carry that cash you are more likely to be a victim of a robbery. Contrary to popular belief in this state, everyone who would actually try to rob you isn't just a misunderstood guy trying to turn his life around....most of them are scumbags that wouldn't think twice about cutting your throat for $100.

 

[atmay]

Exactly, it's not to protect the cash (property), it's that because you do carry that cash you are more likely to be a victim of a robbery. Contrary to popular belief in this state, everyone who would actually try to rob you isn't just a misunderstood guy trying to turn his life around....most of them are scumbags that wouldn't think twice about cutting your throat for $100.

Well, I think it's more for show on the particular city/town's part. I mean, they let people who really need guns have them, so they're not all that bad, right?


Personally? Stealing any of my property is no different than stealing the food right out of my mouth. And I need that shit to live, dude.

 

[Boston_Shooter]

Well, I think it's more for show on the particular city/town's part. I mean, they let people who really need guns have them, so they're not all that bad, right?


Personally? Stealing any of my property is no different than stealing the food right out of my mouth. And I need that shit to live, dude.

I wasn't defending it. I think it's disgusting. I was just trying to explain that it isn't the cash your defending. Why should the fact that I deal with cash on a daily basis put more "value" on my 2A rights than some other guy who works a 9-5 and carries a debit card around?

 

[atmay]

I wasn't defending it. I think it's disgusting. Why should the fact that I deal with cash on a daily basis put more "value" on my 2A rights than some other guy who works a 9-5 and carries a debit card around?

Figured. I just didn't feel like getting off my soap box right away

 

[Boston_Shooter]

Figured. I just didn't feel like getting off my soap box right away

Let everyone get a turn..

 

[Rancho]

Damn I am sorry you have to go through that crap.
In my town I just used the basic statement, from my ltc course, that I want to be totally legal with all firearms I posess and will posess... She actually did the application on the MIRC's system right in front of me and put it in for ne restrictions and in 2 weeks I had my LTC..

Good luck with that man.

 

[milktree]

Exactly, it's not to protect the cash (property), it's that because you do carry that cash you are more likely to be a victim of a robbery. Contrary to popular belief in this state, everyone who would actually try to rob you isn't just a misunderstood guy trying to turn his life around....most of them are scumbags that wouldn't think twice about cutting your throat for $100.

Well, using that logic, shouldn't "I'm a jackass who starts a lot of arguments with thugs" be a good reason to get an ALP?

How 'bout, "I'm the only one who calls the cops on the drug dealers", or "I wear nice clothes for work, so I look rich"

 

[swampy]

Here are some reasons:
People believe I carry large sums of money.
The second amendment was determined to be for an individual right to protect/defend oneself. The Second Amendment Foundation has won court cases in the past and will surely win more...perhaps here?
24 cops in town, rarely more than 6 on a shift, unlimited bad guys!
The law does not permit using a firearm to defend an object, only lives in imminent danger. As a boy scout I was taught to be prepared and I choose to be prepared to defend against imminent danger.
My family and my life are more precious than any object. There is my need!

 

[JimB]

its a right to carry a firearm, not a priviledge, the Gods of fall river

as it seems have their head up their ass.

 

[dpaine77]

Fortunately I just wrote "For all lawful purposes" with no questions asked.

 

[lateapex31]

My town requests for ALP,
•All-Lawful Purposes
You must clearly demonstrate a need for an all-lawful purposes license. This should be stated in your letter requesting a License to Carry Firearms. If the basis for the request is because of threats, then proper court documentation and/or police reports must be submitted. Deposit slips would be required for carrying large amounts of cash. Etc.
Whats to stop someone from putting cash in a account and every month take it out and re-deposit it to generate a deposit slip,It dont get it...

Newton says the same thing.....until you produce the slips and they tell you that there is no reason to fight a robber, just comply. So you jump through their hoops and they still restrict the thing.

 

[smokey-seven]

Just ask what the definition of what is a, "large amount of cash" and then show them a few K.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Exactly, it's not to protect the cash (property), it's that because you do carry that cash you are more likely to be a victim of a robbery. Contrary to popular belief in this state, everyone who would actually try to rob you isn't just a misunderstood guy trying to turn his life around....most of them are scumbags that wouldn't think twice about cutting your throat for $100.

Carry a large amount of cash can also serve as indicative of "member of the right socioeconomic or racial class". It would be difficult, as the MA courts are reluctant to compel disclosure of info from other applicants (even with identifying information redacted), but it could be interesting if it were shown that the percentage of clean record diverse persons meeting the qualification was substantially lower than that of white Euro-Americans. In areas other than firearms licensing, the courts tend to have little tolerance for the use of factors that serve as proxies for identification of protected categories of people.

Just ask what the definition of what is a, "large amount of cash" and then show them a few K.

The question was asked in depositions for Ruggerio v. Roache (Ruggerio was fighting a restriction on his Boston LTC). The Boston PD answered that they were not prepared to answer with a specific dollar amount.

 

[blindndead]

Well if that is what they want I will collect my rent from my tenant and use the deposit slips when I need to re up in May to my advantage to try to get my restrictions pulled. Play the game I guess.

 

[Mike S]

Maybe somebody should ask the police these 2 questions.

"if you're saying you will only give this to me, to protect myself because I carry large amounts of cash, it's OK when I do, right? Will you put that in writing for me?"

Also, why is it only people that carry large amounts of cash have the right to protect themselves? (as they are clearly saying that only those people have that right.)