Democrats 2020 Megathread - There can be only one!

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"There is a clear division amongst Democrats who think that the socialists just can't get it done and won't win in the general election, and then, these kind of traditional Democrats -- Hillary Clinton-type people -- and I think she's still looking at this race."


So how i am reading this: half the democrats do not support warren/sanders type of moonbat politics, and would NOT get out and vote for them! So if Deval and Bloomberg (or, shudder, Hillary) fail to get the nomination, it is locked up for Trump to win a 2nd term!
 

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"Thoroughly"? He could and should have done 10x as much in his own branch in the first 90 days of 2017. Swept out all the Obama holdovers. Called for legislation to repeal and not replace Obamacare, privatize public broadcasting, eliminate the NEA, and BUILT THE WALL. Then Ciaramella and his kind would not have been in positions to cause trouble.

Inaction has been Trump's biggest failing.
 

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"Thoroughly"? He could and should have done 10x as much in his own branch in the first 90 days of 2017. Swept out all the Obama holdovers. Called for legislation to repeal and not replace Obamacare, privatize public broadcasting, eliminate the NEA, and BUILT THE WALL. Then Ciaramella and his kind would not have been in positions to cause trouble.

Inaction has been Trump's biggest failing.
Hindsight is 20/20, Trump went in there with no experience and having no idea who was a traitor. You can't just fire everyone and hope you find replacements in a timely manner.
 

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They’ve driven themselves insane. It's like an infectious disease that each of them eventually succumbs to. Trump the businessman already existed, but they created Trump the presidential candidate. They called him forth with their insanity. Trump makes them angry, yes, but the insanity? That's what made Trump to begin with.
 
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ButtGiggle is "surging".

It will be pretty damned funny if ButtGiggle puts granny warren, Unka Joe, and Feel-da-burnie in there places!
 

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Now I forgot to change my registration to unaffiliated prior to the oct 25 deadline for the feb primary, but my wife didn’t forget (she changed back to unaffiliated right after voting for The Don in the primary in 16)!!

We’ve been trying to figure out which dem she should vote for in the primary, while wearing a MAGA hat!! I really wish I switched before the deadline just to f*** with the evil liberals!!

Is this a good place to ask or should I start a poll?? I think voting for the fake Indian would be best for the Don but we’re both not quite sure....
 

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Hindsight is 20/20, Trump went in there with no experience and having no idea who was a traitor. You can't just fire everyone and hope you find replacements in a timely manner.
...yet that's exactly what he should have done.

I'll go a step more: since we're well down the merry garden path to banana republic already, he should have arranged for a couple of the more egregious cases to, um, get the Billy Smolinski treatment. Not even Arkancide - just GONE. Without a trace. Nothing strikes terror quite like that. There's no bloody shirt to wave, no corpus delicti, and every opportunity to stoke the rumor mill about "flown the coop cuz nefarious."
 
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While it's fun to fantasize, it's not something he realistically could have done day one. The media would have had a field day with that sort of action. It would be like GM & Ford firing the UAW today but having no one to build any vehicles tomorrow. Whether it's what would benefit GM/Ford/Trump is true, it's not doable. How would you keep from hiring different swampers? The swamp isn't going to just leave, he needed time to learn how to manipulate them to his advantage and that is something Trump has certainly gotten better at.
 

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While it's fun to fantasize, it's not something he realistically could have done day one. The media would have had a field day with that sort of action. It would be like GM & Ford firing the UAW today but having no one to build any vehicles tomorrow. Whether it's what would benefit GM/Ford/Trump is true, it's not doable. How would you keep from hiring different swampers? The swamp isn't going to just leave, he needed time to learn how to manipulate them to his advantage and that is something Trump has certainly gotten better at.
Actually it is something that could have been achieved day one and has been done before.

Oblunder. Clinton and others have wholesale fired all appointees made by previous presidents for state dept/attourneys general and others DAY ONE of their presidencies

Everyone has known all along that the state dept was a vipers pit.....that was/should have been a no brainer

Same with AG's.......dump em

Not firing Comey day one was the biggest mistake he made.

He should have cleaned house of political appointees at various intelligence agencies as well

Trump's issue day one was that he listened to the advice of establishment GOP types......
 
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Not exactly sure why he decided this would be the time to do this run, or why he thought he should do it in the 1st place. Is he known at all outside of MA?
 

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Actually it is something that could have been achieved day one and has been done before.

Oblunder. Clinton and others have wholesale fired all appointees made by previous presidents for state dept/attourneys general and others DAY ONE of their presidencies

Everyone has known all along that the state dept was a vipers pit.....that was/should have been a no brainer

Same with AG's.......dump em

Not firing Comey day one was the biggest mistake he made.

He should have cleaned house of political appointees at various intelligence agencies as well

Trump's issue day one was that he listened to the advice of establishment GOP types......

From what I understand it is customary for appointees to submit their letter of resignation perfunctorily under a new administration. For someone like the WH Chef he may or may not stay. Usually the new WH chief of staff accepts or denies these letters. It is reported that the Obama appointees, under group thought, did not submit their letters forcing Trump to have to fire them and make a scene in removing them.
 
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From what I understand it is customary for appointees to submit their letter of resignation perfunctorily under a new administration. For someone like the WH Chef he may or may not stay. Usually the new WH chief of staff accepts or denies these letters. It is reported that the Obama appointees, under group thought, did not submit their letters forcing Trump to have to fire them and make a scene in removing them.
There are a couple of subtleties at play here. It is (or was) a sort of unwritten tradition for a President's own cabinet to offer their resignations at the start of the President's second term, so that the President could turn over a new cabinet for the second term without having to be seen to fire everyone.

Another thing is that US Attorneys are a political appointment, hence most resign at the end of their party's Presidency or wait until they get fired when the other party's Presidency started. This happened with a small amount of controversy when then-AG Jeff Sessions fired the previous US Attorneys who hadn't yet resigned.

The last thing to keep in mind is that most ambassadors are apolitical career diplomats. Only a small amount of ambassadorships are rewards for political patronage; this is a common (and, I think, lousy) practice of both parties. Typically, though not always, the politically-awarded patronage ambassadorships are to countries considered plum postings (like to the UK or to France) or to countries with little impact to the US (like New Zealand). Important ambassadorships, like the US Ambassador to China, are reserved for people with the appropriate diplomatic qualifications for the job. Though perhaps not the current US Ambassador to the EU ;)
 
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The internal polling numbers must be freaking the D's out, why else do they keep throwing up these hail mary candidates that no one asked to run?
 

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The internal polling numbers must be freaking the D's out, why else do they keep throwing up these hail mary candidates that no one asked to run?
bloomberg....was a republican at one point. I am sure the dems like when he contributes $ to them, but despise him personally. He will throw his money around, but is not going to win many votes

remember the dems loved Trump too when he was a major donor, only later did he become "orange man bad"
 

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Wasn't one of Trumps left wing critics primary issues in 2016 is that the had no government experience? That we shouldn't elect people with no experience? Thank goodness for the internet and the forever nature of peoples words. It can be used to come back and haunt them.
 

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Wasn't one of Trumps left wing critics primary issues in 2016 is that the had no government experience? That we shouldn't elect people with no experience? Thank goodness for the internet and the forever nature of peoples words. It can be used to come back and haunt them.
its a little like shooting a handgun. EXPERIENCE does not necessarily count if you keep doing it the WRONG WAY. Like you develop a flinch, but keep on shooting and flinching.....

So having BAD RINO previous experience actually was a bad thing. Trump had the type of experience we actually needed, experience in getting things done and kicking azz.
 
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