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CT governor wants "grandfather clause" eliminated and existing "assault weapons" confiscated

Well, even in Windham and Litchfield counties there wasn't a strong R presence. Only Hartford, Fairfield and New Haven counties matter anyway. I don't think that even all of the remaining 5 counties' populations combined equal that of one of those three. Litchfield was carved up real nice to make sure CT 05 will not elect a Republican to the House.
 
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So when is SWAT coming door to door to take those properly registered ARs and "hi caps" beto style? These poor saps should have buried theirs and shut up like the other quarter million AR owners in CT who didn't comply.

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Ex Post Facto would prevent this wouldnt it? You cant retroactively make something illegal.
That refers to activities in the past. A person who used to own a banned item, but sold it, would be protected by that principle.

Continuing to own it after the law change (and some warning) would be the alleged crime here. This is why people argue this is a taking: you told me it was legal, now you're saying it's not. The state's position is that you can sell it elsewhere, so it's not a taking.

They'll probably prevail, until AWBs are defeated at SCOTUS.
 
That refers to activities in the past. A person who used to own a banned item, but sold it, would be protected by that principle.

Continuing to own it after the law change (and some warning) would be the alleged crime here. This is why people argue this is a taking: you told me it was legal, now you're saying it's not. The state's position is that you can sell it elsewhere, so it's not a taking.

They'll probably prevail, until AWBs are defeated at SCOTUS.
gotcha. Thanks
 
“They should not be allowed in the state of Connecticut,” Lamont said. “I think they’re killers. We found out they’re cop killers. I think they’re incredibly dangerous in our community. You’re not serious about crime if you leave them on the street.”

This week, he reiterated an intention to repeal the grandfather provision.

“I think it’s a loophole that makes our society here in Connecticut a little less safe,” he said.



Sucks to all those in CT who registered their 'assault weapons' like gud bois. Wonder if Lamont's gonna send SWAT to CT gun owners' doors who have the wink-wink AR "others" too.
 
LOL, wait until you see the sh*t Maura has planned for Massachusetts. Don’t worry, though, you may get your rights back 10 years later when the lawsuits make their way to SCOTUS. Well, your kids may get those rights back, you’re likely going to be killed during a home invasion or run over by a dreamer speeding in their car to another town to try and vote for the 4th time that day. your estate will be sued by the 14 people in the other car who have extensive soft-tissue injury.
Don't flatter yourself, Walter Cronkite.

She has and will have bigger problems and issues to deal with vs. your gunz problems.
 
I wonder if these "lesser guns" will face the same fate, or be OK in Connecticut.

 
Folks, let’s try to be nice, even when we disagree.
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I wonder if these "lesser guns" will face the same fate, or be OK in Connecticut.

there are no lesser guns.
it is the same european/uk model the canada goes through now. we here are just a half step behind.
 
what we have is an illusion that is no more than that.
a reality will hit you once you cross a NY state border. and CT will probably be there in an year.
As I said that's what the Courts are for because we have recourse and a majority in SCOTUS. Eventually NY/NJ/CT/CA, etc. will have to make a decision, comply or keep defying the Courts.
Say Thank You Cocaine Mitch and Donald Trump.
 
As I said that's what the Courts are for because we have recourse and a majority in SCOTUS. Eventually NY/NJ/CT/CA, etc. will have to make a decision, comply or keep defying the Courts.
Say Thank You Cocaine Mitch and Donald Trump.

They already made their decision and keep doubling down on it.

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As I said that's what the Courts are for because we have recourse and a majority in SCOTUS. Eventually NY/NJ/CT/CA, etc. will have to make a decision, comply or keep defying the Courts.
Say Thank You Cocaine Mitch and Donald Trump.

The court system has no enforcement mechanism. If the administrative branch wants to, it can tell the courts that it will "take their rulings into consideration" and then promptly ignore them.

Lincoln and FDR both did exactly this to some extent. The supreme court has no army or police force. The only thing that *really* keeps them in check is their need for legitimacy from the public, but it's a trade off between legitimacy and maintaining power. If the math changes in the minds of the US elite, then theyll just drop the decorum.


Just something to keep in mind.
 
So when is SWAT coming door to door to take those properly registered ARs and "hi caps" beto style? These poor saps should have buried theirs and shut up like the other quarter million AR owners in CT who didn't comply.

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Why would anyone bury their guns?

I mean I guess a couple would be acceptable that may make sense.

I mean if you really need to gun you could break it any house in America or target a cruiser. You have to remember the Boston bombers Kill somebody for an extra gun.

The last thing I’ve ever doing is waiting in line unless it’s in hell.

Merge this one with the clown world thread
 
What I meant by that is that they only come with 10 round magazines.
Lol. Before the SKS was deemed too dangerous entirely and banned, you were only allowed to have 5 rounds in the internal mag in Canada. Gotta block off the other half.
 
That refers to activities in the past. A person who used to own a banned item, but sold it, would be protected by that principle.

Continuing to own it after the law change (and some warning) would be the alleged crime here. This is why people argue this is a taking: you told me it was legal, now you're saying it's not. The state's position is that you can sell it elsewhere, so it's not a taking.

They'll probably prevail, until AWBs are defeated at SCOTUS.
Until then, I would hope the courts would prohibit "a taking".
 
This sort of battle is significant for anyone living in a blue state.

Places like MA, CT, CA, etc. have steered clear of bans without grandfathering because it is of questionable legality; raises the issue of a "government taking", and the probability of likely suits. If any state gets away with it, it will embolden all the other states to play "catch up".

And if you think the law will protect us, just read the recent RI decision denying the injunction against their law based an interest balancing and the minor impact (WTF???) of being compelled to surrender ones high performance firearms. Some have claimed the judge was stupid, but I disagree. The judge knew the reach of his power; the absolute immunity from any sanction other than being overturned on appeal; and the fact that his ruling would help further what be believes is best social policy. (Jacques summed it up the concept nicely when commenting on a gay rights bill ... "I'll take a win any way I can get it".) The judge may even sincerely believe SCOTUS is wrong, and that it is his moral obligation to ignore it (just as some gun owners feel the right to disobey laws they personally judge to be unconstitutional).

The confiscation/surrender issue is a critical batter that will be won or lost, and will guide blue state legislation.

The opposition will no doubt play the card "This is not confiscation, you just have sell them out of state" ... which raises an interesting issue - if the guns/mags are so evil, why is the state trying to force them into other states?
 
The opposition will no doubt play the card "This is not confiscation, you just have sell them out of state" ... which raises an interesting issue - if the guns/mags are so evil, why is the state trying to force them into other states?
Don't forget the other "It's not confiscation" option in the RI law: You can permanently modify your standard capacity magazines down to 10 rounds max. :(
 
If the court is under the impression it's not a taking, why would they prohibit it?
Hey you're the court expert, you tell me. I thought you were saying to just wait long enough, and the court will settle everything. Something about a slapdown or a smackdown, or whatever.

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I'm not even being negative.

I'm just saying that this court doesn't think they need to intervene before the case is heard.

That's separate from whether the AWB will eventually be upheld.
The court went out of its way to comment on the benefits and merits of the law being contested.
 
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