another data point that this forum is being overrun by people who do nothing but spew bad information. Starting to get just a bit ridiculous around here. Stop. Just stop.
Nothing new. It was a lot worse when we started the forum as most didn't have a clue about the laws. Over the years a handful of us have been educating the people on NES so that more and more (those that bother to read the stickies, etc.) are better educated on the laws.
That said, there are always those that will spout stuff told to them by dealers, LEOs, instructors, etc. who are clueless. You just can't stop that from happening and it's not worth going insane trying to stop it.
Really? And you found this info where?
If you come to Florida, stay out of South Florida and the big cities. That’s just Southern New York, with the same people and the same attitudes.
Thank You! My late MIL retired there and every visit I found the same thing you stated, tons of arrogant oldsters from NY and Boston with attitudes to match. My Wife wants to retire there and I want no part of FL, this is one of the reasons, the humidity kills me and that is another major reason.
Now I may get raked over the coals for this but better to be take the abuse and know for sure (and based on who has spoken in this thread I will find out pretty fast).
My understanding for Mass was if not asked, do not volunteer since we do not have to. If asked if there is a firearm on us or in the car, we are required to disclose.
Fire away.
Police can lie to you with immunity (it's legal), but if you lie to a cop, you can be prosecuted and may get convicted. So if "asked" don't lie. BUT do NOT volunteer info for which you were not asked.
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To the case at hand:
- In his case, he should have ID'd himself as "part of the system", the jerk (cop) might have taken it down a few notches if he had.
- "Probable Cause" from Black's Law Dictionary (not the best, and some parts left out that don't seem relevant here) "An apparent state of facts found to exist upon reasonable inquiry (part left out) which would induce a reasonably intelligent and prudent man to believe, in a criminal case, that the accused person had committed the crime charged . . . " Now it has been a very long time since I went thru the police academy and a long time since I worked on the streets, but a family traveling with the man possessing a gun permit seems to be totally lacking any element in the above definition.
- I sincerely hope he sues on a civil rights violation in federal court and pierces the officer's immunity.
- I do believe that he was treated this way because he is Hispanic. No excuse for this, but my gut tells me that prejudice got in the way of good judgment here and there should be severe penalties for this.