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Compacts with the best out of the box trigger in MA?
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boilermaker
NES Member
Do they make a compact PPQ?
I would expect the VP9sk to be nice, the VP9 full size was nice on mine, wish I still had it.
Laura
NES Member
I've never seen the PPQ in MA either but I still have my VP9, I've never let that one go, it's got the best trigger on any gun I own. I'd get the VP9sk in a minute if they had them available in the state...
compact/subcompact can mean anything nowadays but since you've mentioned the G19 I would say in that size range good triggers would include:
-PX4 storm compact
-92 compact
-sig P229
-CZ P01
-canik TP shorter grip pistols (eg elite)
-walther PPQ same pistol as the canik
-springfield XD compact - has very nice trigger IMO
-some people like the P320 trigger I personally do not
-PX4 storm compact
-92 compact
-sig P229
-CZ P01
-canik TP shorter grip pistols (eg elite)
-walther PPQ same pistol as the canik
-springfield XD compact - has very nice trigger IMO
-some people like the P320 trigger I personally do not
Laura
NES Member
I have the 92FS compacts and full size and all of them have trigger jobs. The compact was so heavy, I couldn't pull the trigger. I was told by the gunsmith it was way more than 12 pounds. Of all the guns sold in this state that I have in my collection - only the VP9 never needed work....
50wt
NES Member
I only mentioned the ppq because Laura had included the 19 in the list.
Laura - Check out the Steyr pistols as well.
for a 92 compact, install a D spring or have LTT in Arizona work their trigger magic
it doesn't need a trigger job
D spring is like $8 problem solved
if a trigger is physically too heavy for you that's certainly worth fixing, but generally speaking the "quality" of a trigger has little to do with how well the pistol can shoot. if one takes their time and learns a trigger any modern pistol can be shot very well. a good example is the Sig P320 for me. I don't shoot it well. I don't naturally jive with the trigger. however if i take a little time and dry fire it the gun will shoot as well as anything else in my collection.
Bearcatbirddog
NES Member
Sig p365
The day you need to draw down gou will never notice that 12lb trigger .
Dont buy a pistol because of "trigger"
How it fits your hand and naturally draws and points for you under distress is far more important.
Dont buy a pistol because of "trigger"
How it fits your hand and naturally draws and points for you under distress is far more important.
cockpitbob
NES Member
LC9s
Wickedcoolname
NES Member
J-Frame S&W
ReluctantDecoy
NES Member
I get what you mean with the P365 trigger. The break is kind of a "thud" instead of a crisp snap you get with other good striker fired triggers. But for a factory trigger, it is still above par and has a nice reset. I don't notice this mushy feeling as much when actually firing, but I did immediate notice it when dry firing. Isn't this a subcompact though? Think OP wanted compacts like G19 size.
DarthRevan
NES Member
I love the 92 series, but not the compact.
If you want a solid MA gun, the shield 2.0 has a much nicer trigger than the last gen.
For a double stack I would go G19/26 or maybe a M&P9C 2.0, but I hate S&W semis.
If you want a solid MA gun, the shield 2.0 has a much nicer trigger than the last gen.
For a double stack I would go G19/26 or maybe a M&P9C 2.0, but I hate S&W semis.
Not sure if serious, a shit trigger past a certain point, deters use and practice. There's no reason to settle for something less than what you
want, that's how people get into trouble.
-Mike
Knob Creek
NES Member
Don't know about they compact, but the full sized Canik much to my surprise has a great trigger.
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Laura
NES Member
After having held this gun in the shop, I liked the way this gun felt in the hands over the Sig 365. Soon to be my next gun in the new year....possibly followed by the original M&P 9c. I dearly wish HK would bring the VP9sk to MA though....
I think we need to establish what a shit trigger is , thinking service pistol mindset.
For the most part I think all factory triggers on compacts suck.
Im just pointing out that under stress and adrenaline rush you wont notice a triiger between on factory compact semi to the other. Im more inclined to say want the gun that points well with out manipulation.
Its all good
Laura
NES Member
One of my guns had a trigger so heavy that I couldn't fire it with two hands pulling on it. That's a lousy trigger, but a typical MA approved gun. If I avoided buying guns with heavy trigger pulls in this state, I wouldn't own anything beyond a used Glock and HK VP9.....
Very true about the MA trigger issue.
When Im looking at a new pistol trigger pull is the last thing im worried about. Especially if going to carry.
Needing 2 hands to pull a trigger is either a really bad trigger or weak hands or combination of both.
Good thing is Triggers can be worked over and fingers/hands can be strengthened.
dcmdon
NES Member
A defensive gun doesn't need a perfect trigger. But a terrible one makes things harder.
A friend of mine who is a good shot, got into the FFDO program with the feds. They issued him a HK or Sig (I forget) that had a trigger that was (no joke) like 12 lbs.
He had purchased the same gun with a standard trigger so he could practice in advance of his training. After he got back we shot the 2 guns together. he shot the one with the normal (5 lb ish) trigger much much better.
A friend of mine who is a good shot, got into the FFDO program with the feds. They issued him a HK or Sig (I forget) that had a trigger that was (no joke) like 12 lbs.
He had purchased the same gun with a standard trigger so he could practice in advance of his training. After he got back we shot the 2 guns together. he shot the one with the normal (5 lb ish) trigger much much better.
