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This is all just great. It helps me decide NOT to make a trip into Boston. Whenever the discussion comes up about what to do for the day, and Boston is mentioned, I'm thinking... let's see, do I want to be in a tunnel when there's a fire (that's what happened last time we went in!), on a train derailment (haven't been on that yet, sounds fun), or encounter a parking garage that's full, or if its not full then the garage roof could fall on my car.
 

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Almost actually looks like some form of cook off from diesel wet stacking or something like that.... like it cooked off, and then done... weird.

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Charlie Faker is going to talk about this, tell us how they need more money and propose another gas tax hike so the people that don't use the system have to pay for it.
He's already proposed an $18B bill over 10 years with $5.7B going to the MBTA for modernization and the rest to fix clogged roadways. The Big Dig at $24B+ was supposed to do fix everything. As of 2015, the state was paying $100M/year just for debt service, which doesn't include millions spent per year to keep pumping water out of the tunnels.

In 2000, both senators, Kennedy and Kerry, signed on to an agreement that would cap the Bid Dig at $5.7. [laugh]

Senators Edward M. Kennedy and John F. Kerry of Massachusetts, longtime champions of the project, also said that they would respect the 2000 agreement -- enshrined into law by Congress -- to cap Big Dig federal funding at $8.55 billion. They said the builders who made mistakes in the Central Artery project should have to pay for fixing them.
Big Dig failures threaten federal funding - The Boston Globe
 
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You kidding me? Look at the stupid Mass Pike. They took down the toll booths to speed up traffic. The trouble is, you have maybe 2 lanes, where there is room for 4 or 5. Everything gets funneled down to gridlock.

Here's what it looks like in Auburn today:
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You kidding me? Look at the stupid Mass Pike. They took down the toll booths to speed up traffic. The trouble is, you have maybe 2 lanes, where there is room for 4 or 5. Everything gets funneled down to gridlock.

Here's what it looks like in Auburn today:
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Removing the toll booths was never going to speed traffic, just like adding several lanes wont speed up traffic.

In the short run, it speeds traffic, so everyone starts taking the new route, which slows everyone down because the highway cant handle that amount of cars and the secondary roads cant handle thet either.

You can keep adding lanes, but if there is an exit to a one lane street with a traffic light, and 3K cars want to take that exit, they will cause a huge traffic jam.

There is no way around it, the only way to improve flow is to massively upgrade public transportation to the point that it is just convenient to use it rather than driving.

The other alternative would be to demolish half the buildings in Boston, widen every street, re-direct flow, widen every highway ... and in 15 to 20 years you will have a gridlock again.

Edit: Another alternative would be to give some sort of tax credit to corporations for having remote employees (in the U.S.). I am not sure how the state would control that the employees are actually remote, but I'm sure there is a way of doing that.
Give them enough money, and a lot of people will stop driving to work, or at least stop driving 5x per week.
 
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You are missing the point. The Mass Pike is 2 or 3 lanes. It goes to a 2 lane exit to the tolls. That turns into 2 single lanes, one feeding I-290 East (3 lanes), and the other going to I-395 South, also 3 lanes. That is 3>2>1>3 and another 3>2>1>3, where it could be 3>2>2>3, and 3>2>2>3, by simply adding one lane to each side.
 
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Removing the toll booths was never going to speed traffic, just like adding several lanes wont speed up traffic.

In the short run, it speeds traffic, so everyone starts taking the new route, which slows everyone down because the highway cant handle that amount of cars and the secondary roads cant handle thet either.

You can keep adding lanes, but if there is an exit to a one lane street with a traffic light, and 3K cars want to take that exit, they will cause a huge traffic jam.

There is no way around it, the only way to improve flow is to massively upgrade public transportation to the point that it is just convenient to use it rather than driving.

The other alternative would be to demolish half the buildings in Boston, widen every street, re-direct flow, widen every highway ... and in 15 to 20 years you will have a gridlock again.

Edit: Another alternative would be to give some sort of tax credit to corporations for having remote employees (in the U.S.). I am not sure how the state would control that the employees are actually remote, but I'm sure there is a way of doing that.
Give them enough money, and a lot of people will stop driving to work, or at least stop driving 5x per week.
Getting rid of those stupid f***ing tollbooths helped a lot, but the difference is more apparent at times of intermediate traffic. The old arrangement they could f*** up the traffic when the road was really only 50% utilized. That's how badly those overpaid hacks and poor lane design slowed it down. (ez pass blocked off by troglodyte lanes) At night I get on 90 East from the Cambridge Brighton tolls usually at least once a week... when the booths were up, 50% chance of delays getting on the road... now no delays.

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You are missing the point. The Mass Pike is 2 or 3 lanes. It goes to a 2 lane exit to the tolls. That turns into 2 lanes, one feeding I-290 East (3 lanes), and the other going to I-395 South, also 3 lanes. That is 3>2>1>3 and another 3>2>1>3, where it could be 3>2>2>3, and 3>2>2>3, by simply adding one lane to each side.
Ah, that makes sense
 
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The sad/sick part of it is there is PLENTY of room to do that. There is no physical reason they could not move more traffic through these areas. I-290 and I-395 are not backed up or clogged in this area, other than to navigate these bottleneck areas.
 
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From what I've heard for maintenance and skilled labor at the MBTA, there is not a lottery but an actual job application. Followed by a written test, followed by a hands-on test, followed by an interview.

The MBTA employees don't service the Commuter Rail vehicles. A private company works on the Commuter Rail.
 

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This is all just great. It helps me decide NOT to make a trip into Boston. Whenever the discussion comes up about what to do for the day, and Boston is mentioned, I'm thinking... let's see, do I want to be in a tunnel when there's a fire (that's what happened last time we went in!), on a train derailment (haven't been on that yet, sounds fun), or encounter a parking garage that's full, or if its not full then the garage roof could fall on my car.
I felt more naked taking the Red Line to the Joint Committee on Homeland Security and Public Safety hearing without my tacticool flashlight (admittedly, w/ crenelated bezel), than without my 1911CMD.

Because I was more likely to have to evacuate down a darkened tunnel than to fight off a mugger.

(Neither item was getting through the State House security check).


In 2000, both senators, Kennedy and Kerry, signed on to an agreement that would cap the Bid Dig at $5.7.
I see what you did there.

Almost actually looks like some form of cook off from diesel wet stacking or something like that...
You win a cigar today.
All in a day's work for @drgrant -
he hates Left Lane Wet Stackers with a passion.
 

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(Neither item was getting through the State House security check
The State House was the only place that metal detectors picked up the metal in my body, I had to show them the big scars on my back and abdomen to be granted entry.
 
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