People in the know: is it typical for a judge to bring up the...political climate in a state vis a vis certain Constitutional rights?
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Yeah I was pretty surprised to hear him chime in on that. But a legal noob so maybe it’s normal?
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He is following the only logic train the state left him.
State's attorney keeps bringing up that the shutdown is "temporary"...yet the judge has already commented in the previous hearing that the "temporary" order keeps getting extended...so how "temporary" is it really?
Judge is going to enter a form of order based on the state's proposed order.
I wonder whether the "4 appointments per hour" provision will be left in or if he'll change it.
I wonder whether the "4 appointments per hour" provision will be left in or if he'll change it.
But it sounds like he's going to get input on ranges and have another hearing within a week.
"I'm satisfied that there is an impingement, a burden, on second amendment rights"
Yep, hopefully that goes through as well. Seems like he could START with 40% and let us argue for more though? Real bummer
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Is there any legal significance to him using the word "impingement " rather than "infringement "? He's used it more than once
Not 100% sure, but the way he was just talking about it makes it seems like he's going to incorporate the 4 appointments per hour into his order.
Its not temporary- its permanent until further notice.
So, when can shops start doing transfers?
My guess would be Sunday. They are saying 2 days, non business.
We'll know once he issues the order. It sounded like it'll be 2 days after he issues the order in order to give officials time to disseminate the info.
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Are there any other businesses that are limited to the number of transactions they can do in an hour?
This is for the TRO yes? It will/would still go to a trial with more depth?
Sounded like the judge flat out rejected that.
He also said something about the emergency in the timelieness to respond in the prior briefing. I'd be shocked if FFL's weren't allowed to open almost immediately.
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really hope they settle the shops first then go to ranges
I believe this is the case. There's another hearing on the 12th.
People laughed at Cedrone bringing a TRO, but it looks like it's working.
My understanding was that he took issue with the phrasing "business days" and was saying why not two simple days, 48 hours. I can see him saying 24 hours. But I wouldn't be surprised if its a Sunday open, allowing Friday and Saturday for public health departments to get things together.
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God I feel like Charlie brown while Lucy holds the football again.
Now he's saying that the availability of 22 ammo at walmart doesn't satisfy the "core" right of self defense.
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Bummer?
Its f***ing pathetic.
This judge is playing games. This is a no brainer decision. He should stop wasting everyone's time and make the only just ruling possible.
OPEN IT ALL.
"I believe that the plaintiffs have a high probability of success on the merits."
p.tice
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I'm not a lawyer, but the two words are a little different. "Impingement" means something has a negative impact on something else. Infringement speaks more to the defiance of a law. The word "impingement" may carry more weight in terms of this case where they are arguing whether a "severe burden" has been put on gun owners.
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1200 Saturday.
dixidawg
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noon saturday
12:00 Saturday stores will be allowed to open. Order as submitted by the state will be used, so by appointment only, no more than 4 appointments per hour.
Hot off the press(phone): Seems lime 12:00 Noon Sat!
