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But he is a Mormon porn star which I find strange.

How many Mormons do you know? I grew up among several and then went to college with a bunch more, and I've never met so many people who were simultaneously completely pious and VERY good at finding loopholes in their own religion. A lot of them even brag about it.
 

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How many Mormons do you know? I grew up among several and then went to college with a bunch more, and I've never met so many people who were simultaneously completely pious and VERY good at finding loopholes in their own religion. A lot of them even brag about it.
Quite a few and I’ve lived in Utah.

It’s strange when you meet them outside of their Mecca. I find them really good people for the most part..

There’s a lot of interpretation going on with that. Where is the Christian send you to a “straight camp?”
Conversion type thing? I don’t know I’m not in the loop. But all I know is you’re trying to straighten out your kids and send them to camp with a bunch of gay people probably isn’t good idea 😂

The magic underwear thing isn’t ad strange as you think.

I don’t know about the seer stones and golden tablets in a hat. But religions have all kinds of weird stuff
 
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Quite a few and I’ve lived in Utah.

It’s strange when you meet them outside of their Mecca. I find them really good people for the most part..

There’s a lot of interpretation going on with that. Where is the Christian send you to a “straight camp?”
Conversion type thing? I don’t know I’m not in the loop. But all I know is you’re trying to straighten out your kids and send them to camp with a bunch of gay people probably isn’t good idea 😂

The magic underwear thing isn’t ad strange as you think.

I don’t know about the seer stones and golden tablets in a hat. But religions have all kinds of weird stuff

Oh, they're awesome people.

But they're also good at finding ways to get around their "commandments." It's what happens when you expect teenagers to submit to really restrictive religious laws: they'll often find a workaround.
 

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Oh, they're awesome people.

But they're also good at finding ways to get around their "commandments." It's what happens when you expect teenagers to submit to really restrictive religious laws: they'll often find a workaround.
They also breed like rabbits
 
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Oh, they're awesome people.

But they're also good at finding ways to get around their "commandments." It's what happens when you expect teenagers to submit to really restrictive religious laws: they'll often find a workaround.


Look up ‘soaking’

Thank me later. Have it on good authority that the kids actually do this.
 

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On a work phone. Should I wait and do this on my personal?

Nah. It's on Wikipedia. That should be work-phone-safe.

The entry does get "jump-humping" slightly wrong. It's usually done from under the bed, with your buddy pushing upward on the underside of the mattress. Which is mentioned, but usually the first definition never happens (I'm told). Pro tip.
 
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C’mon, dude. That narrative has been switched so many times it’s impossible to keep track of. Is it back to genetic inclination?

I generally agree with your sentiment, but I will tell you I once considered myself a “strong ally” of the gay community, but the push toward gender fluidity, especially in schools, has really stressed that.
Hah!!!!!!! I always new you were ghey!!!!!!!!😂😂
 
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I'm out. You can have the thread. Will let you all continue to dance on the graves of innocent shooting victims. Not sure why I expected better here.
Seeing how u managed to insult everybody who disagrees with you I don’t blame you for leaving the thread. Do us all a favor and really pop smoke like Fishfinder.

God bless ya Fishfinder, wherever you are.
 

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What the hell? They have no TV. How else would they pass the time?
Trust me I’m thinking about becoming a Mormon or Amish… I guess I could wear underwear one time a week. Everybody likes jammies.

But in all seriousness.. If you don’t have heat in about nine months you’re gonna have pups
 

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How many Mormons do you know? I grew up among several and then went to college with a bunch more, and I've never met so many people who were simultaneously completely pious and VERY good at finding loopholes in their own religion. A lot of them even brag about it.
Not just Mormons. You know what an eruv is, right?

New Haven's:
 

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Not just Mormons. You know what an eruv is, right?

New Haven's:
There's one in Brookline, I believe Jeff Jacoby of the Globe lives there. There was a big issue a few years ago when his teenaged son escaped/ran away and they found him in NYC .
 

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There's one in Brookline, I believe Jeff Jacoby of the Globe lives there. There was a big issue a few years ago when his teenaged son escaped/ran away and they found him in NYC .

Sharon is famous for the complexity of its eruv. If you drive around town and know what you're looking for, you can figure out all the ins and outs.
 

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Sharon is famous for the complexity of its eruv. If you drive around town and know what you're looking for, you can figure out all the ins and outs.
New Hampshire guys, please chime in: is there a Bethlehem eruv? There's a pretty substantial orthodox community up there. Then again, not sure how they would keep it up or monitor it. The Boston list didn't show anything.
 

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Sharon is famous for the complexity of its eruv. If you drive around town and know what you're looking for, you can figure out all the ins and outs.
Chronicle did a story on it recently, they have a wire attached to telephone poles surrounding the eruv. Ther's a white Irish guy, contractor with a bucket truck who maintains the wires. Every week he drives around and does an inspection and repairs any frayed wires.
 

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There are legitimate questions about why the El Paso County Sheriff's Office did not apply for an ERPO in this case. The law's supporters note that Sheriff Bill Elder is a vocal critic of Colorado's red flag law who indicated that he planned to use it sparingly. But even if Elder's office were more inclined to seek ERPOs, it is by no means clear that doing so in this case would have prevented the Club Q shooting. An order against the future murderer would have expired months before the attack unless the sheriff's office or another petitioner successfully sought an extension…

In 2019, the El Paso County Board of Commissioners unanimously condemnedColorado's proposed red flag law, saying it "infringes upon the inalienable rights of law-abiding citizens" by authorizing police to "forcibly enter premises and seize a citizen's property with no evidence of a crime." Elder likewise raised due process concerns about the law, saying his office would enforce it only if a family or household member obtained an ERPO or in "exigent circumstances" where "probable cause can be established" that "a crime is being or has been committed…

Even without Voepel's [the killer’s mother] cooperation, the sheriff's office might have had enough evidence to obtain an ERPO against him last year. But that does not necessarily mean it would have had enough evidence of a continuing threat to extend the order a year later. At that point, in the usual course of things, he would have been able to recover any guns that were seized. He also would have been allowed to purchase additional firearms.


Sheriff Elder seemed to be making a case against due process concerns in enforcing ERPOs - his officers had already responded to a barricaded suspect threatening murder by bombing. It would seem the situation stepped over the “due process” line after the suspect was charged. Whether or not details ever come out on why the killer wasn’t prosecuted remains to be seen - it can take months/years. LEOs and prosecutors are likely to rat out one another only when it’s their own ass on the firing line.
 

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"The judge’s order to release the records comes after several news organizations, including USA TODAY, sought to have the documents unsealed. The judge's ruling also came despite objections from state public defender Joseph Archambault, a chief trial deputy with the state public defender’s office representing Aldrich.

Archambault argued unsealing the documents would end any chance of Aldrich receiving a fair trial, noting the charges from the previous incident were never proven to a jury.

Archambault contends the coverage is "already painting Aldrich as guilty," and there's no way he could be seen as innocent. Aldrich is accused of fatally shooting five people and injuring 17 others at Club Q on Nov. 19.

"Unsealing the documents would end any hope of a fair trial," Archambault said."
 
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