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Colorado candidate gets pepper sprayed to show no need for lethal protection in schools

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Permanent Waves, Jun 13, 2018 at 4:35 PM.

  1. Permanent Waves

    Permanent Waves NES Member

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    I somewhat agree with the premise, I'd rather use a less lethal means to defend myself, particularly in this state. However, not sure that someone could successfully employ pepper spray against perp with a firearm... I wouldn't want to find out. You don't bring pepper spray to a gun fight.
    Perhaps pepper spray might have helped in a school shooting???? Really very situational and potentially ineffective.

    But, in a more concerning sense, I think it will ultimately be used as a reason that no one needs to carry firearms when less lethal forms exist. This guy goes there.

    New ad: Colorado Democrat takes a stand against gun rights by ... pepper-spraying himself

    His platform includes:
    Ban on "Assault Weapons" and hi-cap mags
    Universal Background checks
    10 day waiting time on firearm purchases
    No guns for abusers
    School resource officer
    Pepper Spray in every classroom
     

  2. crazymjb

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    I mean... its better than the alternative in 99.999% of schools. They still won't do it, cause weapons are bad and peace and yoga and butterflies and shit.

    Mike
     
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    Can't you see the kids trying to get at that pepper spray! LOL
     
  4. Dadstoys

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    If he really wanted to make the point, try and rush some guy with a paintball gun with a can of mace and see how many hits you take.
    I'll volunteer for that demo as long as I'm the one with the paintball gun.
    I'll be washing out my eyes and he will be packing his nuts in ice for a few days.
    Seems like a fair trade off.
     
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  5. Rob Boudrie

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    Or set up a panic button that deploys one these in each room and hallway of the school: Instant protection
     
  6. Prepper

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    I was just going to suggest that. It is probably better than my idea to fill up every room and immobilize everyone with Great Stuff.
     
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    Oh. I figured out the flaw already. I hope potential shooters don't know about gas masks.

    Never mind. Back to the foam idea.
     
  8. weekendracer

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    I got sprayed and had to 'arrest' a monster from our PT department. Didn't really feel the full effect until a minute or so after it was over. If you are determined, you can absolutely fight through OC spray. It's good if you can run away while he's dealing with it. But if you are stuck, he'll eventually deal with it and move on, only he's gonna be pissed now. Not to mention, contamination in an enclosed environment (school), everyone gets a dose.
     
  9. Yazz

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    Well that may stop some of those paint ball shootings.
     
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    how far will pepper spray shoot compared to a bullet?
     
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    This needs to be the new "Ice Bucket Challenge" for tidepod eaters...
     
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    Somebody should’ve pissed in his face. Guy’s an idiot.
     
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    I would guess the paintball gun has greater range than a pepper spray or mace dispenser.
     
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    Wow these antis are really committed to their religion. I didn't think that anyone could possibly hate freedom that much. And then this moron appears.
     
  16. Tater

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    just one of my responses:

    Please Be Honest And Read this:
    Scenario: you are a troubled kid who feels like nobody notices him. He decides to shoot up a busy place to get his face Plastered all over the news. He thinks this because he sees it every time there is a shooting. Now.. he can shoot up one of two places.
    Target 1: average public school with no armed security. Just signs and laws preventing legal gun owners from carrying a gun.
    Target 2: a school that has advertized that they allow their teachers and staff to carry firearms (after a very strict and rigorous training course like the police take)
    Target 3: a school that has a police car parked in its front entrance and an armed guard or officer on patrol or on the property.
    Its funny how in target 2 i didnt say that any teachers or staff actually chose to take the course and carry a firearm. The mere possibility of having people that will be shooting back is enough to deter someone to move on. it is the same with those ADT security signs and the blinking alarm lights on cars. We know it wont stop a professional theif dead set on stealing from our house and car but it may be enough to prevent a lot of people to move on to a softer target. Because in the end... sadly.... YOU CANT STOP CRAZY WITH LAWS AND POSSIBLY NOT EVEN WITH GUNS UNTIL THEY HAVE ALREADY STARTED SHOOTING. The best option is having a way to nullify the shooter as quickly as possible.
     
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    So, better pepper spray than nothing.

    But, better a taser than pepper spray, and better a pistol than a taser, and better a rifle or shotgun than a pistol.

    So let's just abolish the f***ing gun free zones act.
     
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    Moron, and an ignorant one at that.
     
  20. jpk

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    Someone should have broken both of his legs with a baseball bat and told him to lie there and bleed and THINK about the dumb shit he's spewing
     
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    How about sprinkler systems that dispense pepper spray. If theres an active shooter , everyone gets pepper sprayed.
     
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    Something he needs to discover in a very public setting to shut his ignorant cake hole.
    It would be an excellent demo.
     
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    Only if it is assault pepper spray.
     
  25. weekendracer

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    Max range is about 20 ft depending on which you are using. So I'd challenge him with a sim gun: I enter room, he pisses himself and then runs to the 'break in case of emergency'. After being shot a dozen times, he gets the OC out. Another dozen welts into it, he finally gets it ready to fire. I'm standing 30 ft away from him as he takes another dozen hits.
     
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    Even better, pepper spray paintballs!
     
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  27. robjax

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    Nice
     
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    That would be potentially lethal to asthmatic students and staff. Prisons have similar systems for riot control.
     
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    Pepper spray is 100% effective at stopping a determined individual who has spent months planning and preparing to commit a mass shooting.

    Unless they have access to a pair of swim goggles. Do we need to ban these now too?

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    Note - I am aware of the respiratory effects of pepper spray and that goggles will not prevent these effects.

    However you can buy a used self contained breathing apparatus on ebay for a couple hundred bucks.
     

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    It was entirely a joke.
     

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