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College suspends young mother for posing with gun at gun range. She’s suing.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by mikeyp, May 26, 2019.

  1. Dennis in MA

    Dennis in MA NES Member

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    Dia’mon??? Really??? Lol
     
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  2. 308rifleman

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    Rob, would it really matter? I am southern born and raised, with plenty of Confederate pride. My wife, Jill, is Canadian born with Cajun roots and raised in Louisiana. Our daughters were born in my home state of Alabama, so I guess the liberals will just call us a family of unwashed rednecks. We are not control freaks as parents. We keep our share of firearms in our home and continue to educate our kids on their proper use. However, we have one rule that stands absolute: no gun photos on social media. Not a real gun, BB gun or water gun. No guns at all. Period!
     
  3. Tinkermatic

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    Did you pick your own name?
     
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  5. djbradles

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    An apostrophed name is always better than a hyphenated one. I hate hyphenated last names to bits.
     
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    Wow, we need to remove these types of people from any position of power. He needs to get sued, fired, and get a job emptying garbage cans. Progressives are the most dangerous and annoying people on the planet, followed closely by Communists and radical Salafi types
     
  7. SERE

    SERE NES Life Member NES Member

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    This is like the old internet legend of Le-a. The "-" don't be silent. Aloud it may sound like LeDasha. :p
     
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  8. Bill Katt

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    Says the guy posting on a firearms related "social media" forum which is knowingly watched by the Ma AG as well as other entities that would love to see all of us 'gun nutz' rot in jail. :-\
     
  9. mikeyp

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    Especially when it's a guy lol
     
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  10. Broccoli Iglesias

    Broccoli Iglesias NES Member

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    Adding students and co-workers to FB is not a good idea.
     
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  11. ThePreBanMan

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    The Principal of the school is a firearm enthusiast. He suspended her for bad trigger discipline and bad muzzle awareness.
     
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  12. jpk

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    You are certainly correct that NES is monitored by people who have a hate on for constitutionally protected rights.....but thats sort of where things diverge from the comparison I made.

    First of all, NES admins dont hate me....or at least not lately....I hope....[crying]

    Second of all NES isnt a platform thats openly hostile to RKBA/Liberty

    Third, NES doesnt sell info on its members to other companies that are openly hostile to RKBA/Liberty

    We could go on and on down the list of ways that posting on Fakebook isnt anything like promoting a constitutional right on NES
     
  13. Kevin_NH

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    A public college should "consider discipline" for an adult student's lawful off-campus activities?

    Ms. Dallas is 20-21 years old; I doubt her college has any in loco parentis duty.
     
  14. xjma99

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    Her parents must have been wrestling fans.
     
  15. Rob Boudrie

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    90% of the time the subject will "cooperate" and be a witness against himself and admit the activity suggested by the photo is real. It is tough and often not financially practical for a college student to tell a non-LEO administrator, who can impose extra0judicial punishment, "we'll get my attorney here and we can talk'.
     
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  16. straightshooterjake

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    This is entirely true. I considered discussing it in my previous post, but it did not add to the point I was trying to make.

    Note that in this case, acknowledging the contents of the photo is an admission to entirely legal behavior, which is also outside the jurisdiction of the administrator asking about it. Even so, in many cases, a person without resources might find themselves with no reasonable recourse. Happily, in this case, I think the aggrieved student will receive some assistance toward getting a fair hearing.
     
  17. tuna

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    Oh bullshit. If it was at a cowboy shoot no one would give two shits.

    I hope she bankrupts the college and buys more guns and range time.
     
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  18. FiremanBob

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    BS yourself. Does the context look like a cowboy shoot? Does she appear to know WTF she is doing with that firearm? These urban punks grow to adult age without becoming adults, they live among society without learning to be decent members of it. I never said anyone had a legal duty to her. But it would be a good deed to set her straight before something really bad happens.
     
  19. Rob Boudrie

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    Gonna get interesting in a generation or three when kids have surnames that sound like lawfirms. Smith-Walters-Devans-Nixon-Peabody-Jackson would be a hell of a surname for a kid to live with.
     
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  20. Rob Boudrie

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    Unclear. You read stories all the time about people who are decruited from their jobs because of politically incorrect behavior or statements made outside the workplace, without any link to the company (no use com company name, logo, etc.). When it comes to private institutions you have to prove their actions violated some sort of law or regulation.

    If you don't think the courts grant colleges wide discretion to ignore the law, just try to get a court to treat a student being expelled from school as a "tenant with all the rights that pertain thereto" if they live in on-campus housing.
     
  21. Kevin_NH

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    First Coast Technical College is operated by St. Johns County School District under the Florida Department of Education. Wouldn't be a 1A case if FCTC were a private institution.

    Dallas's lawsuit alleges civil rights violations, including both Federal first amendment violation and "retaliation in violation of Article 1, Section 4 of the Florida Constitution".
     
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  22. 308rifleman

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    Probably they will choose some politically-correct names: ie Kennedy, Kerry, etc. When they reach adulthood, they can change their names legally.
     
  23. ridleyman

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    It would probably be more appropriate if she had no clothes on, just saying'.
     
  24. KBCraig

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    That's the main problem. It's operated by a school district, mostly for high school students, along with some adults enrolled in vo-tech courses.

    The "college" has the mindset of a high school.
     
  25. HarryPottar

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    That’s the best thing about the interweb, you get to pick your own name and thumbnail.......

    Harry, aka, Jeff, Bert, Ernie, Fred, Da’Dad
     
  26. W.E.C

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    No way, thats an insult to my trash cans.
     
  27. Bt74

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    Your choice, for whatever reason.
     
  28. MGnoob

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    God forbid a a minority posts a photo with firearms and money....because having money or a firearm such a terrible crime...

    As it goes ....first you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the respect.

    As far as in poor taste, only in that it got her in trouble, but the payday will be worth it.ive posted plenty of things I shouldn’t have... love to get paid for it.
     
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  29. fshalor

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    There is nothing wrong with having an opinion. The issue is we have people making laws and voting who some how learned (or are playing a game) that it is required act on feelings and opinions.

    They forgot, possibly because of lazyness, that you should use some logic as a filter between your opinions and feels and the actions you take. Then they decided that was too hard too and took away the opinion / thinking portion and now have just feels.

    The person here you blasted did the right thing. He stated his opinion. He stated his feeling. And he took no action nor proposed taking any action because his logic filter properly identified the subject as being within their protected rights.

    Why are you judging him for applying a very human (and rational) process?
     
  30. 01906

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    Like I said I don't give a flying f#$& what any one does. And the college is wrong. But there is no way I would take a picture like that and post it for everyone to see. I'm willing to bet if most of us posed for a picture like that regardless of race. At they're local range. With your club logo in the background. You probably wouldn't retain membership much longer. If you disagree take the picture and post it up for everyone to see.
     

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