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College suspends young mother for posing with gun at gun range. She’s suing.

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  1. mikeyp

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    I hope she wins an f-ton of money

    College suspends young mother for posing with gun at gun range. She’s suing. | The College Fix

    White assistant principal told black student she had a ‘mean look’

    Florida’s First Coast Technical College has a low view of the U.S. and state constitutions, according to a federal lawsuit by a student who says she’s been suspended indefinitely.

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    White assistant principal told black student she had a ‘mean look’

    Florida’s First Coast Technical College has a low view of the U.S. and state constitutions, according to a federal lawsuit by a student who says she’s been suspended indefinitely.

    Dia’mon Dallas is suing the Florida college for violating her First and Fourteenth Amendment rights and retaliating against her in violation of the Florida Constitution, the Jacksonville Daily Record reports.

    The college, which is part of the St. Johns County School District, suspended Dallas after another student reported a Facebook photo of her and her fiance “holding legally purchased and lawfully possessed firearms at a gun range in Palatka,” according to the lawsuit:

    Two days after the photograph was posted, Dallas was confronted on the college’s St. Augustine campus by the assistant principal and informed that she was being suspended indefinitely for appearing in a picture holding a firearm.

    During the suspension meeting, the assistant principal [Donna Gary-Donovan] said that in the posted picture, Dallas had a “mean look” on her face, was possessing “illegal guns” and stated that “things you do in the dark come in to the light,” according to the complaint. [Gary-Donovan is white.]
     
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  2. exodious

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    the media is turning this into a race thing when it’s more a hoplophobia thing. Principal seems to think all guns are illegal?
     
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  3. robjax

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    can't really tell if her finger is inside the trigger guard and I wish she held the gun a little straighter, otherwise a nice pic. And since she was pointing at the camera I hope it was unloaded and there was nobody behind the camera...lol
     
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    Grip could use a little help.

    Grip.jpg
     
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  5. headednorth

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    Im starting to think thats the key to preserving any rights we still have. Make it a black/brown/gay/women thing and just ride on their coat tails.
     
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    Gonna get paid.
     
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    I don't agree with the college. She will get paid. I will admit I think the picture is in poor taste. The guy behind her has what appears to be a wad of cash in one hand, and a pistol in the other. I think most of us nesters would not post a picture like that. People would assume you were involved in shady business practices. But it's a free country do what you want.
     
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    Fixed it for you, comrade.
     
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  9. KVX

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    Really ? Judgemental much ?

    It's a good thing that you're not a law-maker......

    or, are you ?
     
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    Im going to agree the picture is made to look gangsta. It's not the sort of gun handling most actual ranges would well accept, but I'm always happy to see a female gun enthusiast and there's no indication anything illegal was transpiring. She should win the lawsuit.

    Also it's probably fair to say the sort of white gun enthusiasts who dress in tactical gear of some form day to day, own 58 different AR style rifles, 23 AKs, 3 SCARs, a few 50 BMGs, stock 20,000 rounds of ammo and enough mags to hold it, own a mil surplus hummer with a gun turret and a couple camo pickup trucks flying confederate flags, train regularly for the civil war they think is imminent etc etc.. well that's a culture many people find in poor taste too but it also isnt illegal.
     
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    If it walks like a duck.
    I think we are all judgmental. Or there wouldn't be such emphasis on first impressions.
     
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    No, it isn't illegal amd those "white gun enthusiasts" will most likely be the very people who save this country from complete oblivion.
     
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    Looks like she never held a gun before in her life.
     
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    College official was/is an anti, headline made sure to point out he was white because thats what journalists do. Girl and her lawyer will probably turn it into a race issue because thats what works.
     
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    Why people post photos is beyond my comprehension.......its truly darwinian
     
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    Big gov thanks you for your support of their goal to remove the evils of society- guns and cash.

    OK looks like you are catching a lot of crap for your comment. I agree it's not a classy pic and my gut was no, I would not post such a pic. However, I'm glad she did. There is nothing wrong (excepting possible safety no-no) with her pic and in fact it shows some spunk on her part. As they say, "You go, girl!".
     
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    I said in my original post. It's a free country do you want.
     
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    Aaaaaaannnnnd back to zero they go...

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    Needs to be a little more 90 degrees.
     
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    It's disgusting how many here are judging her for posting a f***ing picture. No one gives a damn if you think it's in poor taste, whether or not you like social media, etc - she wants to post a picture with a gun, she can go right ahead and do so and she shouldn't have to worry about what some paper-pushing dickhead in an ivory tower thinks of it.
     
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    Because people tend to post pics of things they enjoy?
     
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    To each their own.....

    The way most people use social media is "look at me!....LOOK AT ME!!!"....and they give facebook pics of themselves that they no longer have control over and publish it for the world to see with no controls/limitations.......this imho is truly darwinian......

    Some few select folks actually implement some sort of controls/privacy on fakebook/similar......but still are darwinian in the fact that they've now given fakebook and other tech masters their info...

    Again....to each their own.......I just wish more people would consider the future consequences of social media that has openly stated that it hates you and your values.......
     
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    It may very well have been motivated on race - scary black people with guns and all that. To assume that race was not possibly a factor is to deny reality.
     
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    This is exactly what the 2a needs. Take the strategy that gay rights used. They basically said, we don't give a shit if the way we live our life makes you feel uncomfortable, we're going to consistently throw it in your face until it becomes normal.
     
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    Posing like a "gangsta" in complete disregard for firearm safety and disrespect for the photographer, if it is a symptom of other anti-socialized attitudes in the woman, would make me consider discipline, but suspension doesn't come to mind. A humiliating dressing-down is more appropriate.
     
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    Assuming by "consider discipline", you are referring to the school. On what basis would you discipline a student for lawful off campus conduct?
     
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    typical media. White principal told black student. God forbid they just print principal told student.No agenda here.
     
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    Rob, I'm not talking about official discipline according to school rules. I'm talking about as a guidance counselor (many of these fourth-tier schools have them) giving a long-overdue in loco parentis intervention along the lines of, "If you don't want to be a failure in life you must learn these lessons."
     
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    In addition to the obvious concerns about 2nd amendment rights, 1st amendment rights, and overstepping by College officials about off campus events, there is a further issue about photographic "evidence." In short, a picture does not credibly prove, or even imply, that an event took place.

    People may pose with replica guns or stage props for reasons of art, political expression, or "street cred." Even though I respect some of those reasons more than others, they are all valid, and my opinions about other people's "art" is not relevant. And in addition to replica firearms, there is also photoshop. So unless there are witnesses to corroborate events, a photo is not much of an indicator of what did or did not happen.

    As an example, I can accept that a picture of a prohibited person holding a firearm could be probable cause for a warrant. But that only means there is enough justification to collect more evidence, not that there is enough proof to impose punishment.
     
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