College essay - updated, see post #58

IDK, it sounds like a very valid topic to expand her mind and write an essay from the perspective of a tyrant. Go one step further and instead of using Stalin or Mao, use perspective of George III. You can't argue with that point.

I must admit.... if someone's not going to raise hell out of the gate, this would be a brilliant way of trolling the shit out of the teacher....

-Mike
 
If I was a kid in that class I would state that I would do the exact opposite and write about why guns are needed not just for police/military, but for every law abiding citizen.

Way back 1979, I was taking two philosophy classes the same semester at Iowa State and observed both Professors assigned a final project that were quite similar - the ethics of war and self-defense. It was just post-Nam and there was still Hippie-rage in the academic ranks. I negotiated a longer paper that I’d submit to both for my final paper and got a D from the young, liberal female Associate Professor just hired a year ago, and an A from the old, white, male WWII Dept Chairman. He had me read my paper to the Philosophy faculty just to stuff that b*tch.

He offered me a graduate student assistantship for a PhD in Philosophy but I was off to study Biochemistry at Princeton. Philosophy is a great hobby but as a profession - really??? No regrets.
 
OK, before I raise anyone else's blood pressure, I must apologize. I followed up with my daughter this afternoon asking for clarity about this essay. It turns out that the students had a choice to take the topic and either be 'for or against' citizens having guns. In this case, my daughter chose against (don't ask me why). When I initially spoke with her yesterday, she made it sound like there was only one side to the topic. Again, that's not the case and I apologize for posting this without having all the facts. (flame suit now on). Go easy on me ☹

WAT? so weve just spent like hours maligning a professor or teacher that was more objective than we thought.... [rofl] or at least somewhat...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOqJ1F44_-Y
 
Do the paper from the point of view of an 1800s Native American.. when only the ”police and army” had guns..

or a philosophy professor in Cambodia during the 70s.
 
Haven’t read the whole thread, but there’s GREAT value in being forced to defend a point of view other than the one you believe in. That’s what critical thinking is.

With that said? I’d be surprised if that’s what the professors intended. But I’d love to see a copy of the assignment.
 
5 pages of this. What shitty college is she going to? Why do so called conservatives pay money to have this Nazi shit taught to their children?

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Since this is a philosophy class, and thereby a class which should embrace logic and critical thinking: if guns are bad, why should the police and military have them? Are police and military inherently and infallibly good? Are guns in possession of police and military good? Are police and military members selected from a unique group of people possessing superior characteristics and abilities? If police and military members are selected from a group of people highly representative of the population in a given community, if guns are bad, why should police and military members be trusted with them. If guns are not, in and of themselves, bad, why should we not trust the general population with them?
There is the intro to the essay.
 
OK, before I raise anyone else's blood pressure, I must apologize. I followed up with my daughter this afternoon asking for clarity about this essay. It turns out that the students had a choice to take the topic and either be 'for or against' citizens having guns. In this case, my daughter chose against (don't ask me why). When I initially spoke with her yesterday, she made it sound like there was only one side to the topic. Again, that's not the case and I apologize for posting this without having all the facts. (flame suit now on). Go easy on me ☹
I know why. Do you own a .40?
 
OK, before I raise anyone else's blood pressure, I must apologize. I followed up with my daughter this afternoon asking for clarity about this essay. It turns out that the students had a choice to take the topic and either be 'for or against' citizens having guns. In this case, my daughter chose against (don't ask me why). When I initially spoke with her yesterday, she made it sound like there was only one side to the topic. Again, that's not the case and I apologize for posting this without having all the facts. (flame suit now on). Go easy on me ☹

Ah.

That’s better.
 
She should ask the professor that she would like to present her essay via projector to the whole class and literally show how EVERY SINGLE genocidal government in history has taken guns away from it's people, show picture after picture of Russian, Chinese, German, etc, executions of political opponents. Women, children, and elderly slaughtered in the name of the party in charge. Then remind them that Trump is going to be President until 2024 and see how fast they want to move on taking guns.
 
OK, before I raise anyone else's blood pressure, I must apologize. I followed up with my daughter this afternoon asking for clarity about this essay. It turns out that the students had a choice to take the topic and either be 'for or against' citizens having guns. In this case, my daughter chose against (don't ask me why). When I initially spoke with her yesterday, she made it sound like there was only one side to the topic. Again, that's not the case and I apologize for posting this without having all the facts. (flame suit now on). Go easy on me ☹
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they should not be told what side of the fence they should choose. They should be able to select their side and then defend their opinion.

This is a case of more brainwashing.
 
OK, before I raise anyone else's blood pressure, I must apologize. I followed up with my daughter this afternoon asking for clarity about this essay. It turns out that the students had a choice to take the topic and either be 'for or against' citizens having guns. In this case, my daughter chose against (don't ask me why). When I initially spoke with her yesterday, she made it sound like there was only one side to the topic. Again, that's not the case and I apologize for posting this without having all the facts. (flame suit now on). Go easy on me ☹

 
Sadly I’ll also make a good guess that the professor himself is Jewish. Seems to be the theme these days.

Bizarre conclusion to make. Any evidence or were you just in the mood for random ant-semitism?

Appreciate all the feedback gang. I'll try to get in touch with this professor directly and see what their objective was in assigning this topic and why it was presented in this manner. I'm not looking to rile up the troops here, just throwing it out there that this kind of suggestion is happening to our young people. I do agree that this assignment was not presented appropriately to the students.

It sounds like you got all the facts and are doing the right thing. It also sounds like you're doing a fine job of raising an outstanding independent thinker. Please dont be the guy that calls the professors ever....she'll do fine on her own without that.

Given the current state of the academic, liberal mindset, I'm surprised they're ok with cops having firearms

They aren't.
 
Bizarre conclusion to make. Any evidence or were you just in the mood for random ant-semitism?

No evidence, otherwise I wouldn’t have prefaced it with “good guess”.

I wasn’t being anti-Semitic, please roll up your skirt so it doesn’t get muddy.

My point was this;
When I see all these big name Jewish pols and all the uber high cost cities/towns filled with very liberal/socialist Jews, along with many more that are teachers, scholars, professors and all of them being so fervently anti-gun and pro-socialist it’s just confusing to me how they could even think of being that way after what their people went thru. That was my point, if it came across otherwise it was not the intent.

Should I have made that assumption? f*** if I know. I’m not an overly sensitive liberal professor. But I’d still be interested to see if I was right.
 
OK, before I raise anyone else's blood pressure, I must apologize. I followed up with my daughter this afternoon asking for clarity about this essay. It turns out that the students had a choice to take the topic and either be 'for or against' citizens having guns. In this case, my daughter chose against (don't ask me why). When I initially spoke with her yesterday, she made it sound like there was only one side to the topic. Again, that's not the case and I apologize for posting this without having all the facts. (flame suit now on). Go easy on me ☹
Throw her out! 🤣
 
I went to a liberal ma college 40+ years ago near tail end of Vietnam. NY Sullivan act and GCA were fresh stuff. They were trying to indoctrinate us then. It didn’t work then and probably won’t now. My last reunion I sat with an MD a DDS and a PhD ( I’m an MBA) all in MA discussing our favorite configuration of AR 15s and agreed you needed several. All of us had bought cheap and stacked deep pre Maura . ( I made a deal to swap an AR 15 lower for an AR 10 over drinks that night). These guys were all shooters / hunters before college.

Some of my anti gun class mates became pro gun later. ( many also became republicans). One after a mugging. One after a patient said he was going to come to office and kill them all over a bill dispute. Another after a daytime B&E at her home on a week end ( she wasn’t home at time).

So all hope is not lost.

What percentage of those like minded people are aware of the current push. Things that Comm2a are working on and goal is lobbying around? Which of those have passed that data to their fellow shooters?
 
Bizarre conclusion to make. Any evidence or were you just in the mood for random ant-semitism?



It sounds like you got all the facts and are doing the right thing. It also sounds like you're doing a fine job of raising an outstanding independent thinker. Please dont be the guy that calls the professors ever....she'll do fine on her own without that.



They aren't.
What college do you work at?
 
Sorry, I'm not going to out the school or professor. All I will say is that it's a Massachusetts college... you get the idea. I only posted this because it's disappointing to see that this is being taught or subliminally suggested to our young generation.

And why not out them? Did this really happen or not?
 
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