College essay - updated, see post #58

I have a bit of a different take on this - Isn't it odd that the professor is giving the students a conclusion and asking them to write a paper supporting the conclusion? I don't recall any assignments like that in college or high school. All of the assignments I received required the student to think about a subject (guns or whatever), learn about the subject, create a conclusion, and then write a paper supporting the student's conclusion. Grades were based on how well the student supported their conclusion of the evidence that the student found. It seems intellectually limiting to tell the students the "correct" conclusion and then ask the student to find and write the evidence supporting the given conclusion.
 
Appreciate all the feedback gang. I'll try to get in touch with this professor directly and see what their objective was in assigning this topic and why it was presented in this manner. I'm not looking to rile up the troops here, just throwing it out there that this kind of suggestion is happening to our young people. I do agree that this assignment was not presented appropriately to the students.
 
I have to say, I'm a bit shocked hearing about this, but not surprised. My daughter called me yesterday and said for her philosophy class, they are being required to write a 5 page essay on why guns are bad and that only police and military should be allowed to have them. She also mentioned they needed to discuss how the 2nd amendment is outdated and needs to be outright removed from the constitution or significantly changed. My daughter, while not fond of guns does understand a civilians right to have them and believes in the 2nd amendment. I think that in the coming years (maybe 15-20) that this country will be disarmed and plunged into socialism once this young generation gets into political power. You can all laugh and think it's not going to happen, but just look at what these kids believe in and what they want to accomplish. We gun owners are severely outnumbered by the anti-gunners and this young generation who are determined to change it.

I'm not looking to start a war of words, but this is what is being taught to our young people... so sad.

This country will be reduced in population by 50% and its major leftist cities to smoldering rubble, coast to coast, Gulf to Canada before it is disarmed.
 
Schools, colleges, and universities are no longer what they claim to be. I call them government indoctrination centers. I believe they are nothing more than that and if I was to have a young child now I would live on a street corner if that’s what it took to afford private schooling. Never would I send a child to those public pollution centers.
 
Another thing is that philosophy is supposed to be about intellectual debate and using facts, logic, and reasoning to make an argument. A real prof would've written the prompt as "do you think guns should only be used the .gov?" Or, "what would be the moral implications if no one except the government had access to firearms?"

My instinct is that this prof could've been avoided by RateMyProfessor because the wisdom of crowds outs these hacks. Even Googling the guy's name - unless he's a true adjunct and this is his first rodeo, he should have a page on the college's website (assuming this is a full 4-year institution and not a community college) detailing the guy's background, education, and publications. If his publications include "Guns: the White Man's New Whip" and "Why I hate Myself: Mommy and Daddy's Fault 2.0," then that's very telling.

If OP isn't going to out the prof and the school, then what's the point in all this?
Rate my professor went downhill a decade ago. You can only get away with things like "this professor is awesome" or "the class is easy". They were already scrubbing bad reviews 10 years ago.
 
Rate my professor went downhill a decade ago. You can only get away with things like "this professor is awesome" or "the class is easy". They were already scrubbing bad reviews 10 years ago.

I've been kind of out of it for the last couple years because law school is a very small world, especially mine. But I had no problem using RMP when I was an undergrad (again, small school though). Point is, there's ways to figure out if a prof sucks.
 
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Sorry, I'm not going to out the school or professor. All I will say is that it's a Massachusetts college... you get the idea. I only posted this because it's disappointing to see that this is being taught or subliminally suggested to our young generation.

Can you at least tell us ... is the professor guilty?
 
Appreciate all the feedback gang. I'll try to get in touch with this professor directly and see what their objective was in assigning this topic and why it was presented in this manner. I'm not looking to rile up the troops here, just throwing it out there that this kind of suggestion is happening to our young people. I do agree that this assignment was not presented appropriately to the students.

I, um, wouldn't do that unless your daughter has already said something. College students are adults and should be handling their academic affairs themselves in the driver's seat.

I also don't think that parents should pay for college but I had a DD214.
 
This sounds like a debate team project, sometimes teams get assigned particular arguments and have to support points they don’t agree with. It can be super difficult. But worth investigating.
 
I've been kind of out of it for the last couple years because law school is a very small world, especially mine. But I had no problem using RMP when I was an undergrad (again, small school though). Point is, there's ways to figure out if a prof sucks.
I wish they didnt scrub my reviews. They werent insulting, but they were brutally honest. Like my one econ professor that never made us open the book, once. Never gave us a test and we only had to write two 3 page papers all semester on things that werent on the book.

Or the one black professor I had that walked into class and said "a lot of people complain about me. The truth is, they could catch me raping a little boy outside and I probably wouldnt get fired". And then would go off on how horrible all the white professors were. We didn't learn sh*t in that class, except his hatred for his life. Good and funny guy, but a waste of space at the school.

The Econ department was a mess.

We had another fat a** that smelled like stale cheetos all the time. I tried to walk into his office one day and it was full of empty potatoes chip bags, the giy was asleep drooling.

The toughest, and best professor was ex Turkish military.

And we had one young professor that wasnt corrupted by the system yet. He was also good, and was very pro capklitalism and freedom. He talked a lot of sh*t about all the other professors. He left after that year.
 
We gun owners are severely outnumbered by the anti-gunners and this young generation who are determined to change it.
"In a 2017 poll, Pew found that among the age group 18 to 29, 27% personally owned a gun and 16% lived with a gun owner, for a total of 43% living in a household with at least one gun. Nationwide, a similar percentage of American adults lived in a household with a gun."
 
Since this is a philosophy class, and thereby a class which should embrace logic and critical thinking: if guns are bad, why should the police and military have them? Are police and military inherently and infallibly good? Are guns in possession of police and military good? Are police and military members selected from a unique group of people possessing superior characteristics and abilities? If police and military members are selected from a group of people highly representative of the population in a given community, if guns are bad, why should police and military members be trusted with them. If guns are not, in and of themselves, bad, why should we not trust the general population with them?
 
Since this is a philosophy class, and thereby a class which should embrace logic and critical thinking: if guns are bad, why should the police and military have them? Are police and military inherently and infallibly good? Are guns in possession of police and military good? Are police and military members selected from a unique group of people possessing superior characteristics and abilities? If police and military members are selected from a group of people highly representative of the population in a given community, if guns are bad, why should police and military members be trusted with them. If guns are not, in and of themselves, bad, why should we not trust the general population with them?

That's an awesome line of thought..

I'm sure she can find PLENTY of examples of cases where cops/soldiers have exhibited criminal behavior and should not be trusted with a weapon..
 
This country will be reduced in population by 50% and its major leftist cities to smoldering rubble, coast to coast, Gulf to Canada before it is disarmed.

(Donning my Leftist pussy-hat and Obama 2012 pin) "You say that like it's a bad thing."

The Left doesn't care about the country or the people, as long as they can consolidate their power at the top of society and use it to milk the country of its wealth. Which they will convert to gold and keep in tax-haven accounts for their eventual retirement in Monaco or some such luxury "safe space." It can take a long time to kill the golden goose of an entire country. Look at how long the grifting savages of Zimbabwe, S. Africa, Venezuela and Cuba have been lining their pockets.

These Democrats think 1984 is a heroic legend in which Big Brother and O'Brien are the good guys.
 
Given the current state of the academic, liberal mindset, I'm surprised they're ok with cops having firearms
 
I don't see what the problem is to take the professor. If provide it for someone else to name. Let the public/media decide if this is legit or not. No such thing as bad publicity right?
 
Appreciate all the feedback gang. I'll try to get in touch with this professor directly and see what their objective was in assigning this topic and why it was presented in this manner. I'm not looking to rile up the troops here, just throwing it out there that this kind of suggestion is happening to our young people. I do agree that this assignment was not presented appropriately to the students.
She _could_ toe the gunz-Я-bad line and get the A.
 
IDK, it sounds like a very valid topic to expand her mind and write an essay from the perspective of a tyrant. Go one step further and instead of using Stalin or Mao, use perspective of George III. You can't argue with that point.

I was thinking the same thing. Use Nazi Germany and far left governments as examples of how they needed to disarm the population (or at least the undesirables) before they could commit genocide.
 
I have to say, I'm a bit shocked hearing about this, but not surprised. My daughter called me yesterday and said for her philosophy class, they are being required to write a 5 page essay on why guns are bad and that only police and military should be allowed to have them. She also mentioned they needed to discuss how the 2nd amendment is outdated and needs to be outright removed from the constitution or significantly changed. My daughter, while not fond of guns does understand a civilians right to have them and believes in the 2nd amendment. I think that in the coming years (maybe 15-20) that this country will be disarmed and plunged into socialism once this young generation gets into political power. You can all laugh and think it's not going to happen, but just look at what these kids believe in and what they want to accomplish. We gun owners are severely outnumbered by the anti-gunners and this young generation who are determined to change it.

I'm not looking to start a war of words, but this is what is being taught to our young people... so sad.

Nobody's laughing.

What has happened was conceived by Antonio Gramsci, it's called The Long March Through The Institutions and its goals have already been mostly accomplished.
 
OK, before I raise anyone else's blood pressure, I must apologize. I followed up with my daughter this afternoon asking for clarity about this essay. It turns out that the students had a choice to take the topic and either be 'for or against' citizens having guns. In this case, my daughter chose against (don't ask me why). When I initially spoke with her yesterday, she made it sound like there was only one side to the topic. Again, that's not the case and I apologize for posting this without having all the facts. (flame suit now on). Go easy on me ☹
 
OK, before I raise anyone else's blood pressure, I must apologize. I followed up with my daughter this afternoon asking for clarity about this essay. It turns out that the students had a choice to take the topic and either be 'for or against' citizens having guns. In this case, my daughter chose against (don't ask me why). When I initially spoke with her yesterday, she made it sound like there was only one side to the topic. Again, that's not the case and I apologize for posting this without having all the facts. (flame suit now on). Go easy on me ☹

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I went to a liberal ma college 40+ years ago near tail end of Vietnam. NY Sullivan act and GCA were fresh stuff. They were trying to indoctrinate us then. It didn’t work then and probably won’t now. My last reunion I sat with an MD a DDS and a PhD ( I’m an MBA) all in MA discussing our favorite configuration of AR 15s and agreed you needed several. All of us had bought cheap and stacked deep pre Maura . ( I made a deal to swap an AR 15 lower for an AR 10 over drinks that night). These guys were all shooters / hunters before college.

Some of my anti gun class mates became pro gun later. ( many also became republicans). One after a mugging. One after a patient said he was going to come to office and kill them all over a bill dispute. Another after a daytime B&E at her home on a week end ( she wasn’t home at time).

So all hope is not lost.
 
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