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I have to say, I'm a bit shocked hearing about this, but not surprised. My daughter called me yesterday and said for her philosophy class, they are being required to write a 5 page essay on why guns are bad and that only police and military should be allowed to have them. She also mentioned they needed to discuss how the 2nd amendment is outdated and needs to be outright removed from the constitution or significantly changed. My daughter, while not fond of guns does understand a civilians right to have them and believes in the 2nd amendment. I think that in the coming years (maybe 15-20) that this country will be disarmed and plunged into socialism once this young generation gets into political power. You can all laugh and think it's not going to happen, but just look at what these kids believe in and what they want to accomplish. We gun owners are severely outnumbered by the anti-gunners and this young generation who are determined to change it.

I'm not looking to start a war of words, but this is what is being taught to our young people... so sad.
 
I've written like three or four extremely pro-gun and pro-gun ownership papers as an undergraduate and I'm writing about a stricter interpretation of the 2nd Amendment (the legal way of saying "WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!?!") right now.

Your daughter either picked:

1) the wrong college;
2) the wrong major;
3) the wrong professor; or
4) all of the above.
 
If I was a kid in that class I would state that I would do the exact opposite and write about why guns are needed not just for police/military, but for every law abiding citizen. In college I learned that you are required to write essays on topics suggested by the professor, but not from their own opinion. The purpose is to bring forth your opinion on the suggested topic and not attempt to brainwash the students, but we all know how colleges are nowadays.

This of course didn't aim well for me so I dropped out after two years and attended a trade school which I should have done post HS graduation.
 
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I would write the essay as assigned, but use ridiculous arguments:

Guns are bad and that only police and military should be allowed to have them

Only the police should have guns because there are too many minorities in the country, and only the police have shown a willingness to solve this problem by shooting minorities to reduce their numbers. We have too many dogs too, and the police seem adept at solving this problem with guns as well.

Since women have been allowed to vote, we have become more feminine and less self sufficient. We want the government to protect us as we are no longer willing to protect ourselves.

I think I would also go into a detailed description how to disarm the population, using Matt Bracken as a source.
 
I have to say, I'm a bit shocked hearing about this, but not surprised. My daughter called me yesterday and said for her philosophy class, they are being required to write a 5 page essay on why guns are bad and that only police and military should be allowed to have them. She also mentioned they needed to discuss how the 2nd amendment is outdated and needs to be outright removed from the constitution or significantly changed. My daughter, while not fond of guns does understand a civilians right to have them and believes in the 2nd amendment. I think that in the coming years (maybe 15-20) that this country will be disarmed and plunged into socialism once this young generation gets into political power. You can all laugh and think it's not going to happen, but just look at what these kids believe in and what they want to accomplish. We gun owners are severely outnumbered by the anti-gunners and this young generation who are determined to change it.

I'm not looking to start a war of words, but this is what is being taught to our young people... so sad.

Well, lets get this party started, in 15-20 years it will be a hell of a lot harder to fight than it is now, in 15-20 years you'll be fighting drone cops not human cops who will bleed and die or be on our side from the onset.

Also, dont forget that there are a lot of young people on our side as well, thousands of millenials have spent the past 20 years fighting overseas and theyre not fond of gun laws or oppressive government. The twats in colleges may be corrupted but the younger generations are who is going to save the 2A, not the corrupt NRA or boomers bitching on the internet and at town hall meetings.
 
I would write it in a serious, but sarcastic way. For example, write how the government should only have gun because the government would never exterminate the local population, they would never take a citizens tool to defend themselves before sending them to concentration camps .... and so on. I would make several examples, probably subtle, that really say: this essay is BS, I mean the complete opposite of what I wrote.
 
I have to say, I'm a bit shocked hearing about this, but not surprised. My daughter called me yesterday and said for her philosophy class, they are being required to write a 5 page essay on why guns are bad and that only police and military should be allowed to have them. She also mentioned they needed to discuss how the 2nd amendment is outdated and needs to be outright removed from the constitution or significantly changed. My daughter, while not fond of guns does understand a civilians right to have them and believes in the 2nd amendment. I think that in the coming years (maybe 15-20) that this country will be disarmed and plunged into socialism once this young generation gets into political power. You can all laugh and think it's not going to happen, but just look at what these kids believe in and what they want to accomplish. We gun owners are severely outnumbered by the anti-gunners and this young generation who are determined to change it.

I'm not looking to start a war of words, but this is what is being taught to our young people... so sad.
Which college is this?

It goes against every fiber of college education. Papers should be assigned on a broader topic such as

"Pick a position on gun conrol, defend it, use at least 5 citations minimum xx pages.
 
Prof is looking for self-validation here... to reinforce his position, brainwash the masses, etc..

personally, I would write a gun paper on whatever my position was, and deal with the grade I got. If it was a bad grade, I'c complain to the Dean that the subject was biased and see if it got anywhere (doubtful)

Then out the school/prof on Social Media.. Tag all the gun and conservative allies.. make the prof's name blasted in black/white the Blaze, Brietbart, Bongino Report, etc..
 
Sorry, I'm not going to out the school or professor. All I will say is that it's a Massachusetts college... you get the idea. I only posted this because it's disappointing to see that this is being taught or subliminally suggested to our young generation.
 
Sorry, I'm not going to out the school or professor. All I will say is that it's a Massachusetts college... you get the idea. I only posted this because it's disappointing to see that this is being taught or subliminally suggested to our young generation.

You should do something about it, even if it's after the semester is over. If it's your money paying for it then there's your justification, but even not it's a brazen attempt to brainwash one of your kids.
 
College essay - why guns are bad and citizens should not have them...

Have your daughter write the essay and then tell her to change every iteration of the word "GUN" with the word "TRANS-GENDER" and report back to us...
 
. My daughter, while not fond of guns does understand a civilians right to have them and believes in the 2nd amendment. I think that in the coming years (maybe 15-20) that this country will be disarmed and plunged into socialism once this young generation gets into political power. You can all laugh and think it's not going to happen, but just look at what these kids believe in and what they want to accomplish. We gun owners are severely outnumbered by the anti-gunners and this young generation who are determined to change it.

Lol not sure how you got that from that- in this case its about what some moonbat professor believes in, that shouldn't be a total indictment of culture or young people, etc. and if I was the student I would probably withdraw from that class, or be at the provost/dean's office, being pretty pissed... and I would have been even long before I was really interested in
guns. Hell I would be skeptical of any teacher that says "you have to tell us why X is bad" at a bare minimum that's hardly objective.


Sorry, I'm not going to out the school or professor. All I will say is that it's a Massachusetts college... you get the idea. I only posted this because it's disappointing to see that this is being taught or subliminally suggested to our young generation.


Frankly any professor that practically mandates that their students shit on the constitution/human rights should be put on nuclear-blast. Or at a bare minimum I wouldn't be in that
class and would not be expected to pay for it.

-Mike
 
Sorry, I'm not going to out the school or professor. All I will say is that it's a Massachusetts college... you get the idea. I only posted this because it's disappointing to see that this is being taught or subliminally suggested to our young generation.

Why not?? Out them both. Unless we do something about it, it will continue. If it were my daughter, I wouldn't hesitate. Call Fox News, the NRA etc... Make a big deal out of it. Imagine if it was a pro gun paper. Every news outlet would be all over it.
 
Lol not sure how you got that from that- in this case its about what some moonbat professor believes in, that shouldn't be a total indictment of culture or young people, etc. and if I was the student I would probably withdraw from that class, or be at the provost/dean's office, being pretty pissed... and I would have been even long before I was really interested in
guns. Hell I would be skeptical of any teacher that says "you have to tell us why X is bad" at a bare minimum that's hardly objective.

Frankly any professor that practically mandates that their students shit on the constitution/human rights should be put on nuclear-blast. Or at a bare minimum I wouldn't be in that
class and would not be expected to pay for it.

-Mike

Another thing is that philosophy is supposed to be about intellectual debate and using facts, logic, and reasoning to make an argument. A real prof would've written the prompt as "do you think guns should only be used the .gov?" Or, "what would be the moral implications if no one except the government had access to firearms?"

My instinct is that this prof could've been avoided by RateMyProfessor because the wisdom of crowds outs these hacks. Even Googling the guy's name - unless he's a true adjunct and this is his first rodeo, he should have a page on the college's website (assuming this is a full 4-year institution and not a community college) detailing the guy's background, education, and publications. If his publications include "Guns: the White Man's New Whip" and "Why I hate Myself: Mommy and Daddy's Fault 2.0," then that's very telling.

If OP isn't going to out the prof and the school, then what's the point in all this?
 
Meh. We get our panties in a bunch waaaaay too often. I remember in classes like philosophy and such being forced to defend a position regardless of my personal feelings on it.

In my day it was capital punishment. That's the one I remember. I had an entire class that was pro-capital-punishment (but couldn't define it - just "that guy needs to be dead.") and I had to defend eliminating it on lengthy and costly legal appeal grounds. I set aside my beliefs and looked at the facts. Today? I can't tell you if I'm pro or con. It doesn't eliminate criminality. But it's just desserts for some. But it costs a minor fortune. Not an easy topic.

It's good exercise. It helps you to cut through hte BS. The Left doesn't have exclusive rights to BS. Going through these exercises taught me to think like my opponent and know my S-word on my own opinions.

If she is that upset, she can add a sticky-note to it. But just do the work. If you don't agree, it isn't indoctrination.
 
The only way to do this is to write exactly what the professor want. Someone above mentioned this assignment is given solely to edify his ego. He wants to think hes brainwashing.....so let him think that. Have your daughter give a the lefty talking points. Get the A and move on.

You might think that bucking the system is the way to go. You will not change the profs mind. Best to regurgitate some BS to let him think hes winning.

And then pick your daughter up and take her to the range.
 
Sadly I’ll also make a good guess that the professor himself is Jewish. Seems to be the theme these days.
 
Meh. We get our panties in a bunch waaaaay too often. I remember in classes like philosophy and such being forced to defend a position regardless of my personal feelings on it.

In my day it was capital punishment. That's the one I remember. I had an entire class that was pro-capital-punishment (but couldn't define it - just "that guy needs to be dead.") and I had to defend eliminating it on lengthy and costly legal appeal grounds. I set aside my beliefs and looked at the facts. Today? I can't tell you if I'm pro or con. It doesn't eliminate criminality. But it's just desserts for some. But it costs a minor fortune. Not an easy topic.

It's good exercise. It helps you to cut through hte BS. The Left doesn't have exclusive rights to BS. Going through these exercises taught me to think like my opponent and know my S-word on my own opinions.

If she is that upset, she can add a sticky-note to it. But just do the work. If you don't agree, it isn't indoctrination.

I disagree, it's pretty obvious what it is, in this case. I would feel differently if say the professor was going around and randomly assigning different students different topics, or like in speech class when I ended up doing a debate pro vs anti and ended up on the pro side strictly by random chance. Obvious moonbat indoctrination attempt here is obvious, the assignment was never really intended to get people to think about anything or contrast differing points of view, etc.

-Mike
 
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