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What does it mean to you when someone posts a firearms as LNIB? To me it means it is in pristine condition and it comes with the box (at least) that it shipped with (Like New, In the Box it came from the factory in). To some it appears that the meaning is different. I was in the process of buying something described as "LNIB" and was asked to bring my own box since the seller didn't want to part with the after market carrier it was being transported in. To me this is "like new as if it just came out of the box".

What do you think?
 
If the terms and conditions are disclosed up front, then it's not a problem.

If, when you get to the meet-up, the seller says, "Oh, the ad said 'X', but i meant to say, 'Y'" it's a problem.

LNIB means (to me, Like New In Box) and, I'd assume that that meant that the factory box is included. If it's an aftermarket box...well, you're buying a gun, not a box. If it's a problem, ask for a few bucks off....

If the seller's difficult, that's what the i-trader rating is for....
 
I would assume IB meant in the factory box, with matching serial numbers if the box was numbered. S&W usually has the SN's on the paper boxes IIRC

Having the factory box with matching numbers, cleaning kit if it came from the factory, manuals, etc increase the value of the gun, not having them is not a deal breaker, but I'm pricing accordingly when I negotiate.
 
To me, LNIB means Like New, As If It Just Came Out Of A Box. On the other hand, NIB to me, means This Gun Is Brand New Still In The Original Box. I wouldn't assume a LNIB gun came with the original box/packaging unless the ad specified as such. Most of the time, when the seller is selling a used gun and intends to include the original box, they make a point of mentioning it; "original box included", "Original box and papers included", etc. At least this is my experience and how I operate when putting up my own ads.

Either way, like Mister Happy said... as long as everything is as advertised, then I'd have no complaints. If the seller said LNIB but didn't mention anything about the original box being included, then I wouldn't assume it was.
 
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To me, LNIB means Like New, As If It Just Came Out Of A Box. On the other hand, NIB to me, means This Gun Is Brand New Still In The Original Box. I wouldn't assume a LNIB gun came with the original box/packaging unless the ad specified as such. Most of the time, when the seller is selling a used gun and intends to include the original box, they make a point of mentioning it; "original box included", "Original box and papers included", etc. At least this is my experience and how I operate when putting up my own ads.

Either way, like Mister Happy said... as long as everything is as advertised, then I'd have no complaints. If the seller said LNIB but didn't mention anything about the original box being included, then I wouldn't assume it was.

Agree 100%
 
LNIB means 'Like New, In Box'

If it's not in the factory box, then it is not LNIB.

In the collectable market, if you told someone your action figure was LNIB and you didn't have the box, that would be a lie. It's not LNIB if it's not in the original box.
 
LNIB means 'Like New, In Box'

If it's not in the factory box, then it is not LNIB.

In the collectable market, if you told someone your action figure was LNIB and you didn't have the box, that would be a lie. It's not LNIB if it's not in the original box.

I with Z0mbi. I will need the factory box come with the firearm as advertised as LNIB.
 
LNIB means 'Like New, In Box'

If it's not in the factory box, then it is not LNIB.

In the collectable market, if you told someone your action figure was LNIB and you didn't have the box, that would be a lie. It's not LNIB if it's not in the original box.

This
 
It's precisely this difference in opinion that, regardless of whether I put LNIB or NIB, I always specify whether the original box/papers/etc are included or not. [smile]
 
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LNIB means 'Like New, In Box'

If it's not in the factory box, then it is not LNIB.

In the collectable market, if you told someone your action figure was LNIB and you didn't have the box, that would be a lie. It's not LNIB if it's not in the original box.

This.

LNIB Like new in Box that is what is advertised. Should have the box.

Like new -means like new no mention of box. Means your probably not getting the box.

If I went to buy a gun LNIB that is what I expect not like new without the box. I've been drinking tonight but I'm pretty sure when I sober up I'd feel the same.
 
It's precisely this difference in opinion that, regardless of whether I put LNIB or NIB, I always specify whether the original box/papers/etc are included or not. [smile]

Always a good idea to be extra clear.

I don't know how one can be of the opinion that 'in box' means there is no box, however.
 
I've always interpreted LNIB to be Like New As If It Were New In The Box... referring to the condition of the gun... not the presence of any packaging. Used guns don't always come with original packaging... so I never assume it's included unless specified.

NIB... to me refers to the condition of the gun as well as original packaging. When a gun is brand new, the norm is for the gun to still be with it's original packaging.

[grin]

Don't get me wrong... I see your viewpoint as well... I guess it's all in how one interprets the phrase. Which is why the OP asked how others interpret LNIB.

The best thing to do as a buyer, is to ask about original packaging if it's not specifically mentioned in a LNIB ad. As a seller, make sure to detail what's included with the gun regardless of whether you're selling a LNIB or NIB gun. This way it doesn't really matter what people interpret LNIB to mean [wink]
 
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I've always interpreted LNIB to be Like New As If It Were New In The Box... referring to the condition of the gun... not the presence of any packaging. Used guns don't always come with original packaging... so I never assume it's included unless specified.

That's not LNIB, that's LNAIIWNITB. [wink]

If I see LNIB, I presume it means In Box. otherwise the acronym makes no sense.
 
I used to be a bit of a comic book/memorabilia collector and LNIB always meant "Like New, IN BOX" in that circle. The 'in box' part is very important as 'loose' merchandise is often worth less than half the value of an 'in box' item, the packaging being worth more than the item since it was so much more rare and degradable, and if you advertised an item as LNIB and you didnt have the box, you'd have a pissed off buyer, especially if he bought the item from you on Ebay and already paid for it assuming the box was included as LNIB implicitly implies.

I'm not saying you can't have your opinion, I'm just saying that I believe with every fiber of my being that your opinion is factually incorrect.
 
LNIB means 'Like New, In Box'

If it's not in the factory box, then it is not LNIB.

In the collectable market, if you told someone your action figure was LNIB and you didn't have the box, that would be a lie. It's not LNIB if it's not in the original box.

This.
 
Like new in box to me means a used gun in a factory box. It may or may not have been fired. A better description might be "like new" (no mention of box) excellent, or mint.

Guns are only NIB when they are sold by a dealer. All the rest are used, whether they have been fired or not.
 
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Yeah, I would agree that LNIB is the same as NIB, except maybe it's been used once or twice. The box can be open, and maybe some of the internal wrappings are torn or missing, but it should be pretty much like new.

Otherwise, it just makes no sense. 'Like new' I can understand. 'Like it's in a box, but the box is not included' is pushing it.

It's best to just describe what is being sold, along with pictures.
 
IMHO an LNIB gun is a gun someone bought, never fired, or fired very little, and kept the factory box and all the crap that came with it.

Now, about the "never fired" thing. At least with regards to most semiautomatic pistols, and possibly most production type revolvers, there is rarely such a thing as "unfired" anymore. A pistol may have been fired anywhere from once to having had several rounds or even several mags of ammo dumped through it by the factory before it got shipped.

-Mike
 
IMHO an LNIB gun is a gun someone bought, never fired, or fired very little, and kept the factory box and all the crap that came with it.

This, but the buyer should ask the seller these questions, I would. It would also raise alarm bells to me if I got a message to bring a box right before the sale meeting for a lnib item.
 
LNIB means 'Like New, In Box'

If it's not in the factory box, then it is not LNIB.

In the collectable market, if you told someone your action figure was LNIB and you didn't have the box, that would be a lie. It's not LNIB if it's not in the original box.

agree
 
IMHO an LNIB gun is a gun someone bought, never fired, or fired very little, and kept the factory box and all the crap that came with it.

Now, about the "never fired" thing. At least with regards to most semiautomatic pistols, and possibly most production type revolvers, there is rarely such a thing as "unfired" anymore. A pistol may have been fired anywhere from once to having had several rounds or even several mags of ammo dumped through it by the factory before it got shipped.

-Mike

This is exactly what I think when I see or list "LNIB" Bought it kept it unfired and now selling it!!!
Otherwise LNIB should not be used!!!!

Buyer Beware & be aware
 
Whats the deal with people not deleting their sold items in the classifieds? Its kind of annoying that they hang around. Be nice if they would get removed on a more timely schedule.
 
Whats the deal with people not deleting their sold items in the classifieds? Its kind of annoying that they hang around. Be nice if they would get removed on a more timely schedule.

You can delete the add, but not the rss feed as far as I can tell. So my advise is to edit the add to say sold. This will create a new rss feed that will say sold. Then go delete the add. If you just delete the add the rss feed lives on and wastes peoples time. We need a way to delete the rss feed also.

I only look at the rss feed. I don't go straight to the classifieds so I don't have to weed through the featured guns to get to the new adds.
 
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