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Chris Kyle's Murder is Boggling

I mean many ranges have many members. Especially if you only get to shoot on the weekends when most people go. In many cases its unavoidable to not be in a situation where you turn your back on other members at the range. If i was that paranoid i would never be able to use any of my two ranges. You try to gauge the situation as best as you can. I have been in a situation where i did not feel safe and packed up my shit and left. I also notified the club president of the time so he could check the cameras. Sadly we don't all have the ability to shoot in desolate places.
 
enbloc said:
An excellent question.
Some ranges have Range Officers watching over the operations of the firing line. At others it's an "All-skate", meaning no organization at all and 'Gentleman's Rules' apply.
That means you stay in communications with all other shooters on the line at all times.
Words like "Range is Hot", "Range is Cold", "Changing Targets" are all yelled loud enough that all can hear and no movements are made until all shooters acknowledge commands/requests.

I ALWAYS clear my weapon (remove mag, empty chamber) and stand a few feet behind my weapon when someone goes downrange. It's a Common Courtesy.
Many younger or inexperienced shooters will listen to range commands if they are given loudly and clearly, and without an attitude. Hell, some even start using them themselves...

Either way, if you are ever on a range and don't feel safe with those around you... leave.

There will come a day when "strange folks" will start showing up at ranges with malice in mind. Or, maybe they just really want an AR15 and don't care how they get one...

Situational Awareness is a lifesaver.
~Enbloc
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All good points.

Cofg doesn't require an RO on duty. We go a little above "gentlemen's rules" though and require all long guns to action open and in the racks and handguns to be cased and moved to the rear table (nothing is allowed to stay in the deck) before cold range can be called. We also have a switch that activates orange warning lights that need to be turned on before anyone goes downrange.

As far as theft.....cameras are everywhere.....and the outdoor and indoor range both have key card access......so it's accessible by members only,......unless a thief is willing to come through the woods over the berm into the line of fire non members aren't getting to the firing line. With this scenario I'm not worried about turning my back on the firing line to go downrange.
 
whacko said:
If you dont turn your back on anyone at the range how do you hang steel or change targets if there are other shooters on the range? Do you make everyone go downrange with you even other people not in your group or do you walk downrange backwards? This is a serious question.
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I don't go alone much .
We always leave one of our group at the line and there has been several times i'm glad we did.
 
whacko said:
If you dont turn your back on anyone at the range how do you hang steel or change targets if there are other shooters on the range? Do you make everyone go downrange with you even other people not in your group or do you walk downrange backwards? This is a serious question.
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Where I used to shoot (Styx River Range, Robertsdale, Alabama) the senior RSO was a retired Air Force master sergeant who was a firearms instructor and supervised the rifle range at Lackland AFB. This guy was strict! One mistake and you were escorted from the premises immediately. Ran a tight ship and AFAIK, nobody ever got injured or killed there. When the range went cold, all weapons were benched unloaded and actions open. A yellow line was 6 feet behind the bench. Those not down range checking targets had to stand behind the yellow line. Nobody was allowed to have a firearm behind the yellow line, even a bolstered sidearm. The rules applied equally to LEOs; this guy showed no favoritism.
 
btnh6668 said:
I hear you. It does not add up. They knew he wasn't right. So the best course of action was to take him to the gun range? There was no other spot they could have gone? Then while there they leave their guns with him as they go down range knowing this information. Not saying they couldn't have just had a lapse in judgement but just seems odd given the details we have.
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Chris took guys to the range frequently but I get the sense hadnt met this guy in person until they met that day. So I understand being at the range but not leaving the guy alone with the guns. And from the video someone posted, the murders were gruesome and excessive. Nutso. Sad.
 
308rifleman said:
Where I used to shoot (Styx River Range, Robertsdale, Alabama) the senior RSO was a retired Air Force master sergeant who was a firearms instructor and supervised the rifle range at Lackland AFB. This guy was strict! One mistake and you were escorted from the premises immediately. Ran a tight ship and AFAIK, nobody ever got injured or killed there. When the range went cold, all weapons were benched unloaded and actions open. A yellow line was 6 feet behind the bench. Those not down range checking targets had to stand behind the yellow line. Nobody was allowed to have a firearm behind the yellow line, even a bolstered sidearm. The rules applied equally to LEOs; this guy showed no favoritism.
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Careful with this post..your gonna furiate the finger on the trigger always and be at the low ready warriors on here😂😂😂😂
 
enbloc said:
... I run in a 'serpentine' pattern... [rofl2]

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Hat tip: Instapundit reader Vat of Butter
 
I have nothing to add to this topic; I just want to say that the depiction of Jeff Kyle in the movie was horrible. They show him as a sniveling whimpering pussy which was not at all accurate; Jeff Kyle was a marine and a bad ass in his own right.
 

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