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Chief Ron Glidden's Book

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Hey Guys,

I have been reading about this book. I have been parsing about a year worth of Searches, can anybody give me any info on where I can buy a copy of Chief's Glidden book? I tried Amazon and Barnes and Noble without success.

Fee
 
Chief Glidden writes a great book, but make sure you take the time to recognize the difference between black letter law and his interpretation of it.

The opinions contained in his book may be very interesting, but they are not the law of the land. Be careful.

--Darius Arbabi
 
Cross-X said:
Chief Glidden writes a great book, but make sure you take the time to recognize the difference between black letter law and his interpretation of it.

The opinions contained in his book may be very interesting, but they are not the law of the land. Be careful.

--Darius Arbabi
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Darius, not to dispute you, but what's written in Ron's book is the interpretation provided by de-throned Queen Cheryl Jacques' legal staff, CHSB and EOPS legal staff (including the notes from their meetings in writing the laws). I don't agree with everything either, but if someone gets their ass hauled into court, this will be the tune played by the opposition. So if a judge puts any credibility into "intent" of the law, Ron's writings are likely to hold up.
 
I just love holding the book up in front of Basic classes and tell them that it's the "Cliff Notes" for Massachusetts Firearm Law written for Police Chiefs.

Boy does that get a great reaction from the masses.

Do the same thing when I have those 'conversations' here at home with some of the more liberal members of the family.

Don't think we have enough laws? *THUD* here they are, tell me what's missing.....
 
Chris said:
I just love holding the book up in front of Basic classes and tell them that it's the "Cliff Notes" for Massachusetts Firearm Law written for Police Chiefs.

Boy does that get a great reaction from the masses.

Do the same thing when I have those 'conversations' here at home with some of the more liberal members of the family.

Don't think we have enough laws? *THUD* here they are, tell me what's missing.....
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I do the same thing, only I've also got my copy of the federal laws and regulations from ATF to show them "the other half" (assuming that they never venture into another state, in which case there'll be another book for each state).

Ken
 
LenS said:
Darius, not to dispute you, but what's written in Ron's book is the interpretation provided by de-throned Queen Cheryl Jacques' legal staff, CHSB and EOPS legal staff (including the notes from their meetings in writing the laws). I don't agree with everything either, but if someone gets their ass hauled into court, this will be the tune played by the opposition. So if a judge puts any credibility into "intent" of the law, Ron's writings are likely to hold up.
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Len, I may pare away the BS a little more than most might be inclined to do, no question about that. I do believe it is unfortunate that there are often few deliniations between law and opinion in this book. Many who read it tend to take it as whole cloth, believing that if Chief Glidden says it, it must be so.

Chief Glidden sometimes succumbs to the need to cater to his audience out of fear that if he didn't, his work might not be as readily accepted by Chiefs of police and their staffs.

Sad but true.
 
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Cross-X said:
Chief Glidden sometimes succumbs to the need to cater to his audience out of fear that if he didn't, his work might not be as readily accepted by Chiefs of police and their staffs.

Sad but true.
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I agree!

He had to negotiate a deal with MPI and I'm sure that they dictated some terms.

As some know, I directly sold a lot of these books when Ron was publishing them himself. When I showed them to 3 or 4 police chiefs that I know fairly well, uniformly they all said that they would ONLY buy a book published by MPI/MCOPA!!
 
Hey Guys,

I want to purchase Chief Gliddens book, but i can't seem to find anywhere. I clicked on the link in the second post, but that link doesn't work anymore. I also tried looking at AFS website, but i couldn't find the book. Any help would be appreciated.


Mike
 
I'm not really familiar with Chief Glidden.

His webite touts the fact that he served four Governors on the Mass Gun Control Advisory Board.

Where does he stand on the gun rights in a few sentences.
 
Titan said:
I'm not really familiar with Chief Glidden.

His webite touts the fact that he served four Governors on the Mass Gun Control Advisory Board.

Where does he stand on the gun rights in a few sentences.
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Search and you will find plenty of information.
 
vellnueve said:
Search and you will find plenty of information.
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I was sort of looking for impressions of people on THIS gun forum. Thanks, though. Who would've thought I could search the broader Net?

That could actually be the response to every question on here, and then we could all do something different with our time.
 
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Titan said:
I was sort of looking for impressions of people on THIS gun forum. Thanks, though. Who would've thought I could search the broader Net?

That could actually be the response to every question on here, and then we could all do something different with our time.
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You could try searching for "Glidden" in the MA gun laws sub-forum. There are some interesting tidbits.

Ron's position on "touching" machine guns (which I have no personal interest in) w/o a MG License is rather telling. It's based on "if the law doesn't say that you can do it, then it's illegal to do that" approach. Hard to say that interpretation is "pro-gun" for lawful citizens. On the other hand, his hard push on PDs to only issue LTC-A (and his preference is unrestricted) does help our side.

Due to his positions (chief, chairman of the firearms committee for MCOPA-the most anti-gun group this side of Brady in MA, I think he's the current president of MCOPA, chairman of the GCAB, etc.), he has to walk a fine line on the gun issues as many chiefs in MA are totally anti and he'd be unlikely to survive in any of his positions with a solid "pro-gun" stance. One has to understand how politics works to appreciate this and that the only way to create change (other than at the point of a gun barrel) is from within.
 
jcohen said:
I had a case in Waltham District Court and was trying to cross-examine the Chief using Glidden's book. Suprisingly, the Chief was defiant and contradicted Glidden on several issues. The judge was completely unimpressed by the book, and reluctantly allowed its introduction. The Judge also reluctantly took judicial notice of the Gun Control Advisory Board, even though he was required by statute to do so.
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Waltham DC has a similar attitude towards certain sections of the MGL and CMR, never mind a book.
 
Sounds like MA has its own little bundle of judicial "Banana Republics" within it... if courts won't even obey or consider things which are written by fairly "authoritative" agencies at the top level.

Actually, that's potentially even being too nice- At least in a REAL Banana Republic we could just bribe our way out of any problems that existed.

-Mike
 
Titan said:
I was sort of looking for impressions of people on THIS gun forum. Thanks, though. Who would've thought I could search the broader Net?

That could actually be the response to every question on here, and then we could all do something different with our time.
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He wasn't suggesting that you search the broader net. He was suggesting that you search right here. http://tinyurl.com/y98rytc
 
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LenS said:
You could try searching for "Glidden" in the MA gun laws sub-forum. There are some interesting tidbits.

Ron's position on "touching" machine guns (which I have no personal interest in) w/o a MG License is rather telling. It's based on "if the law doesn't say that you can do it, then it's illegal to do that" approach. Hard to say that interpretation is "pro-gun" for lawful citizens. On the other hand, his hard push on PDs to only issue LTC-A (and his preference is unrestricted) does help our side.

Due to his positions (chief, chairman of the firearms committee for MCOPA-the most anti-gun group this side of Brady in MA, I think he's the current president of MCOPA, chairman of the GCAB, etc.), he has to walk a fine line on the gun issues as many chiefs in MA are totally anti and he'd be unlikely to survive in any of his positions with a solid "pro-gun" stance. One has to understand how politics works to appreciate this and that the only way to create change (other than at the point of a gun barrel) is from within.
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Thanks. That's along the lines of what I'm looking for. It helps.
 

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