warwickben
bubba Kalashnikov
so i got a Cetme L kit. ill probably build it in a few hours once my flat shows up this week. but figured i can start posting now. ill post photos of the de mill and build and also comparing the cetme L to the hk33 i built.
the cetme L is a Spanish 556 roller delayed rifle that started production in the mid 80's nearly 20 years after hk made there own based on the g3.
all hk roller delayed guns are fairly similar. they did not scale parts based on caliber so the 556 guns and 9 mm guns are bigger then they really need to be.
the cetme L is more or less a ground up re design. the bolt head and trunion are similar to the cetme c/hk guns but scaled down, the tigger group is a hk style ie using a push spring on the hammer, vs the torsion rotation spring think ar hammer spring) used in the cetme C. they also combined the grip frame and trigger housing as one part that slides inside the gun vs hanging below like the hk.
they moved the recoil spring to be inline with the firing pin, and the reciviver is more square shaped then the hk gun. another difference is mags. the cetml uses standard stang mags. the hk use there own, some p[eop[el say you need the spanish mags to make it run correctly or you need to sp[read the feed lips a hair. this could be due to wear on the few imported full auto guns. the company made some very slight changes to make standard stang mags work more reliable . talking to them they feel as tho other builds were based on guns that were worn out and there fixes are probably more inline with the correct dims. they were abel to find nos spanish mags and after measuring couldnt find difference to the stang standard. finger crossed lol.
for a fun read and more reason to hate prexis read this link from forgotten weapons. CETME-L Flats: HMG vs Prexis
i did not go with a hmg flat for 4 reasons, there cost of flat weldment and barrel and weld kit , lack of shell deflector, not willing to rent or give dims to build the bending jig (not paying 140$ to use a jig once) and the fact they would not sell the cetme l to mass or there stg clones. also there semi blocking stuff is kinda janky compared to what i went with.
i went with marcolmar firearms build kit with rail. it includes the flat , a new semi modded trigger housing, weldment parts and rail. you need to send them the selector to mod. they also will rent you a bending jig for 25$ a month with a deposit they refund the difference.
this is the marcolmar flat and build kit. you can see the ejection p[ort deflector and they engrave the flat to look close to the orginal markings. they combined there logo and the cetme logo on right side .
this is the hmg flat, lack of markings and ejection port deflector. on guns they built they used a electric pencil...........
the cetme L is a Spanish 556 roller delayed rifle that started production in the mid 80's nearly 20 years after hk made there own based on the g3.
all hk roller delayed guns are fairly similar. they did not scale parts based on caliber so the 556 guns and 9 mm guns are bigger then they really need to be.
the cetme L is more or less a ground up re design. the bolt head and trunion are similar to the cetme c/hk guns but scaled down, the tigger group is a hk style ie using a push spring on the hammer, vs the torsion rotation spring think ar hammer spring) used in the cetme C. they also combined the grip frame and trigger housing as one part that slides inside the gun vs hanging below like the hk.
they moved the recoil spring to be inline with the firing pin, and the reciviver is more square shaped then the hk gun. another difference is mags. the cetml uses standard stang mags. the hk use there own, some p[eop[el say you need the spanish mags to make it run correctly or you need to sp[read the feed lips a hair. this could be due to wear on the few imported full auto guns. the company made some very slight changes to make standard stang mags work more reliable . talking to them they feel as tho other builds were based on guns that were worn out and there fixes are probably more inline with the correct dims. they were abel to find nos spanish mags and after measuring couldnt find difference to the stang standard. finger crossed lol.
for a fun read and more reason to hate prexis read this link from forgotten weapons. CETME-L Flats: HMG vs Prexis
i did not go with a hmg flat for 4 reasons, there cost of flat weldment and barrel and weld kit , lack of shell deflector, not willing to rent or give dims to build the bending jig (not paying 140$ to use a jig once) and the fact they would not sell the cetme l to mass or there stg clones. also there semi blocking stuff is kinda janky compared to what i went with.
i went with marcolmar firearms build kit with rail. it includes the flat , a new semi modded trigger housing, weldment parts and rail. you need to send them the selector to mod. they also will rent you a bending jig for 25$ a month with a deposit they refund the difference.
this is the marcolmar flat and build kit. you can see the ejection p[ort deflector and they engrave the flat to look close to the orginal markings. they combined there logo and the cetme logo on right side .
this is the hmg flat, lack of markings and ejection port deflector. on guns they built they used a electric pencil...........