Catagory 6?

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Heard on one of the news stations that if the Saffir-Simpson scale went to Cat 6, Rita would make it.
Sounds like a good case for not re-building N.O. So they beef up the Levies for Cat5 and what happens? Sometime down the road, 1 month, 5 years, 25 years from now, Mother Nature throws a curve ball and wham, the levies go to hell.
 
Is anybody here a meteorologist? I've got to know what's up with these crazy hurricanes this year.

I remember last year there were a billion hurricanes but I don't think they were this bad combined.

Should I start building an ark?
 
Don't you know that it's the workings of Bush? He's in the basement of the White House pushing buttons and controling the weather. He needed another big storm so he would be able to take over and respond faster. But he wants to show how good he is, so he's upping the ante here with a Cat 6.
 
SiameseRat said:
Is anybody here a meteorologist? I've got to know what's up with these crazy hurricanes this year.

I remember last year there were a billion hurricanes but I don't think they were this bad combined.

Should I start building an ark?
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I was kind of thinking the same. The U.S. tracks anywhere from 10 to 20 hurricanes a year. They have been doing this for 100 years. This year alone we will have had two hurricanes in the top three of all time.

I just got a call from my sister bright and early this morning from Minnesota. They had a thunderstorm last night with 85mph straight line winds. It took trees and power lines right out of the ground. My uncles house got leveled.

It makes you wonder what is up with the weather system this year. It doesnt sound like a coincidence to me.
 
The story with Hurricaine strength is that the Gulf of Mexico's water temperature is 1 degree warmer than normal. Hurricaines get their strength from the energy in the water temp, and apparently it doesn't take much of a change to increase the wind speeds.

Now the funny part is the enviro-wacko's are blaming "Global Warming". Well, I'm no meterologist, but I do know that weather and temperature trends run like a roller coaster, highs and lows. IMNSHO, the 1 degree change doesn't get blamed on "Global Warming", it easily falls within the roller coaster parameters.

Not all environmentalists are wacko's to me. Just the idiots that have the answer, then seek the question to justify their answer. That's backwards, and just flat wrong, and I consider it "Junk Science".. The example is that they blame everything on "Global Warming", since they've staked their reputations on it, so it is blamed for everything. I've even seen it blamed for COLD weather. Go figure.
 
Storm energy ceomes primarily from the earth's oceans. The oceans are like 1 or 2 degrees above average this year. Think for a moment how much energy it takes to raise an ocean one degree and you get an idea of the energy available to power these storms. When Kat hit, the average ocean temp that fueled that storm only dropped 1/4 of a degree at the most.

Added to that some major high pressure systems that have not allowed for small scale storms (huge storms like Kat and Rita require very clear weather aound them. This is why they expect a weakening when a front collides with it from the west.)

It's all really a combination of various things, and this year it has just made for some huge incubators. If we had more fronts across the country, if the ocen temps were slightly cooler, if a thousand little things were different, the whole summer might be different.

It's like us and snow. Some years we see nothing, and other years it seems like storms are lining up and taking numbers to dump on us. Lots of random things coming together.
 
Chris said:
Lots of random things coming together.
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I think you hit the nail on the head. Let hope this doesnt carry over to the winter, I may have to buy a plow truck and retire. [wink]
 
These hurricanes are much stronger than in the past with all the global warming, at this rate I am sure we are in for a blizzard of '78 type storm this year in New England.
 
I've also heard we are supposed to have a bad winter. Don't know what the blizzard of 78 was around here. Lived on the West coast at that time,but nothing would surprise me.
 
There are a couple of things (besides just plain random fluctuations) involved. There seems to be a cycle in the frequency of tropical storms roughly 3-4 cycles per century; we're near a peak of this cycle. The other thing is global warming. That simply means that the overall temperature is rising; it's been doing so for a couple of hundred years now. That doesn't mean that capitalism, the United States, George Bush or human abuse of Mother Earth is responsible for it; it just means that we're moving away from the mini-ice age that we went through a few hundred years back.

Ken
 
I hope that you're making the difference between Environmenlists and Environmental Engineers. LOL!

I don't really believe Global Warming is as strong as people say. And if you study what a love of the experts are saying, we're really working into an Ice Age. That like Tony said, these weather patterns happened every so many years. That's why we have 10 year storms, 50 year storms, and 100 year storms. Because in that amount of time, you can expect a storm to hit with x amount of magnatude.

Why aren't we talking about floods of 1918, or the Alaskan tsunami of 1958?

It's just this time for a lot of bad storms. The only reason that they might seem worse now than in the past is because we weren't as populated in the past as we are now. So, in the grand scheme, they seem worse just because there's more to destruct.
 
'78 was a 'gotcha' type event. Snowstorm was predicted at like 6" but then it stalled over us and in my yard we had a good 4' of snow total from that one storm and the one that had hit a week earlier. I don't remember a lot of the details as I was in 4th grade at the time. (^_^)

I do rememebr my dad and two of the neighbors getting together to walk the 2 miles to the Cumbrland Farms for basic supplies like milk and such for the houses in our cul-de-sac.

We kids just built snow forts taller than we were. (^_^) I still remember that in the back yard you could easily climb right up onto the roof of the house as it had drifted that high. And we had to keep the shades drawn on the bathroom window as the steady kid traffic onto the roof. (^_^)
 
Actually, the record for loss of llife from weather was an un-named Hurricaine in the Galveston, TX area in the early 20th Century. 6,00+ dead, I heard. Makes Katrina pale in comparison.

You've gotta love these storms. We don't hear from "what's her name", the war protester anymore. I do believe the media has moved on.
 
I heard a meteorologist on the Sean Hannity show yesterday - he said this is a normal cycle. That for the past 25 years, the gulf coast hasn't had anything to speak of and this is just Mother Nature's way of balancing things out. It's the same with the ice age - it happens every few thousand plus years.

Also we probably will have a bad winter. We've been fairly lucky over the past number of years. I remember a heck of a lot more snow when I was a kid than I do over the past 20 years or so. We've gotten spoiled.
 
Lynne said:
Also we probably will have a bad winter. We've been fairly lucky over the past number of years. I remember a heck of a lot more snow when I was a kid than I do over the past 20 years or so. We've gotten spoiled.
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Oh, jeez, we're in for it now. Lynne just jinxed us.

When I first moved up here, we had several years of mild winters. So finally, one day after about 6 years of this, I asked my wife "So where are all these famous New England winters you have up here?"

The next winter was '93, IIRC... we got hammered.

Lynne... now you said it, so if we get hammered this winter, it's your fault!

Think I'll go out and get a plow blade for the lawn tractor...
 
MrsWildweasel said:
Shovel, what do you mean shovel! [lol] Although we do have to shovel a path for the prissy cockers. [lol]
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I haven't shoveled since I bought the Jeep, except for the pathway to it. We do get a fair amount of snow here.
 
Nickle said:
MrsWildweasel said:
Shovel, what do you mean shovel! [lol] Although we do have to shovel a path for the prissy cockers. [lol]
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I haven't shoveled since I bought the Jeep, except for the pathway to it. We do get a fair amount of snow here.
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I haven't shoveled since I left the nasty land of snow!
 
I hope some geniuses decide to make a road trip to Texas just to loot. There will be more dead bodies from bullets than from Rita. :D
 
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