That's complete BS.
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Carry licensing decision out of RI Supreme Court
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That's complete BS.
MachineHead
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Thanks, Rob. I'll PM you as soon as I get everything ready.
I think it makes sense to flood RI with non-res applications. It's ridiculous to let the "fear of a denial" scare anyone off. To my knowledge, these denials aren't legal disqualifiers in any state worth applying to.
Cases like Gadomski v. Tavares are worth it especially with strong evidence supporting 11-47-11.
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I think it makes sense to flood RI with non-res applications. It's ridiculous to let the "fear of a denial" scare anyone off. To my knowledge, these denials aren't legal disqualifiers in any state worth applying to.
Cases like Gadomski v. Tavares are worth it especially with strong evidence supporting 11-47-11.
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Why the USSC has not come down harder on municipalities and states charging fees (no different than a poll tax) for enumerated rights is beyond me.
Why the USSC has not come down harder on municipalities and states charging fees (no different than a poll tax) for enumerated rights is beyond me.
No, it only pertains to 11-47-11
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Just curious, even though $40 is clearly stated in law, what rational did they offer for breaking it?
I know many towns have an "application" fee in addition to a permit fee, but I don't know if this is the case in East Providence. Some towns simply charge $100 for the permit and require that you pay when you apply and also state that it is a non-refundable fee. The clearly don't understand/care what the law says.
Is there an RI General Law that covers appeals (not within the judicial system) of decisions? I asked my Chief if I could appeal my denial in person but it was stated that there is no appeal process in this case. Is my next step to obtain counsel and file a motion against the town or should I email the city solicitor and chief with the decision from this case in the hopes they change their decision without court involvement?
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The appeal is to file a writ in the supreme court. There is no administrative appeals process that I am aware of down there.
Rhode Island law doesn't distinguish between resident and non-resident for either the PD or the AG issued license.
See the previous post. There is NO non-resident license in RI and no residency requirement for a RI carry license:
MachineHead
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Would being over the age of 21, having a bona fide residence in any of the United States, having proper reason, having an LTC from my home state, and being a suitable person help me in getting as a RI non-res?
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If you are applying through the AG, it depends upon whether your "proper reason" is sufficient for the AG. Some people have managed that, but many haven't.
Sounds like Federal Hill of old days!! Just reminiscing.
Keep in mind you have to pick up the license yourself from the police department, it isn't mailed. So if you live in Fall River or New Bedford or Bristol County Mass, you'd probably want to go see Tiverton. If you lived in say Worcester County Mass, you'd want to go to Burrillville or North Smithfield.
In your shoes though, I'd consult a RI lawyer before applying since RI applications ask if you've ever been denied and you have been.
blindndead
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I pay attention to RI because I live 5 blocks from the Tiverton line and my gym is there. Can't forget to take you firearm off your hip 5 blocks from home don't need to be a criminal you know. ![[rolleyes]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/042.gif "Roll Eyes [rolleyes]")
VetteGirlMA
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I have thought about getting a RI non-residence license since I actually own a second home there and spend a lot of time there in the summer, but I am worried about getting a watered down, essentially worthless license or worse yet getting a denial and spending the rest of my life having to explain that even though I have a squeaky clean record. I guess I should look forward to the day when I sell it all and get the hell out of New England for good.
As a MA resident, I have my RI license with no restrictions. It wasn't easy, and it wasn't cheap.
I applied, and was denied. I didn't want that to jeopardize my other licenses and FFL so I fought it. If you are applying for "business reasons" they will want things like tax certificates, insurance policies, license to do business, etc. things like that. But call them if you have questions.... the RI AG's office tends to be pretty friendly.
I applied, and was denied. I didn't want that to jeopardize my other licenses and FFL so I fought it. If you are applying for "business reasons" they will want things like tax certificates, insurance policies, license to do business, etc. things like that. But call them if you have questions.... the RI AG's office tends to be pretty friendly.
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If you apply through the town, 11-47-11 states you SHALL be granted a permit. Unless you are a PP, there is no proper reason to not receive one. The skinny here is that I am not aware of anyone applying under 11-47-11 and is a non resident that has been denied, which would then sue. The good part about suing is since you are a non resident, you won't be footing the town solicitors bill.
Oh, forgot to provide the cliff notes' version of the statutory requirements:
VetteGirlMA
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This is in Westerly.
Since you own property there and stay there for periods of time, under Fed Law you qualify for dual residency, meaning that you can legally obtain resident licenses from both MA and RI. Don't know if RI defines "resident" as having to spend x amount of time in-state, so do a little digging in their laws for their definition of "resident" before proceeding. If it's a "go", then schedule a meeting with the police chief to discuss getting a license there, you have nothing to lose. Have the application and all applicable docs with you and only if he's amenable to you applying would I then hand them to him (ALWAYS keep a copy of everything you submit for your records) and go from there.
Misquamicut? If so, a very nice area. My Wife taught in the Westerly Public Schools in early 1970s and a co-worker lived in Misquamicut.
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The guys in BCI are pretty friendly to deal with, in an LEO / officious kind of way. We joked around a bit, and they were reasonably efficient. Bear in mind, the BCI staff doesn't make policy, that's on the AG, who you will never get to meet unless it's election time.
