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My local guy had never seen the code my car threw before. Rather than guess at the problem, he suggested a dealer diagnostic so he knew how to proceed.
Pfft, I can imagine a simple fender bender turns them into TOTALED pretty quick. Which is going to become the norm with how rinky dink cars are being made now and all the sensors that are being stuffed into cars today.the 100K mile service on the Mini Cooper Superchargers are a nightmare, the nose has to come off the car to remove the part so you can change the oil in 2 places.
Front end hits on them are a disaster.
Not Patrick Subaru, the sales weasel had just talked me up about how good the condition of my car was, how it was one of the rare colors, in high demand, etc.....If I were giving you this estimate I would start by saying that we found a lot of work that will be required on the vehicle however some of it should be done right away while other things can wait to be done. The issue is that most of these jobs are labor intensive and require the disassembly of most of the front end to do do each of them. If you chose to do them individually you will pay substantially more due to repeated labor and tear down time. Let me guess They had a sales guy come talk to you about a trade in offer towards a new car if you wanted.... This wasn't Patrick Subaru was it?
My Tacoma is pushing 11yrs. Normal maintenance and on my 3rd set of tires. I am all city driving and it eats tires, I don't care what they are. I'm well under 5K counting tires.I've had my truck for 10 years now. I dont think I've spent anywhere near $4k on repairs.
I had a 67 Ford Fairlane 350GT with a 390 engine. I determined that the drivers side rear spark plug could not be removed without dealing with the motor mount. I cut a hole in the fender well, used an extension when I needed to change that plug and popped a big rubber grommet into the hole when done.That's crazy, although years ago I remember hearing about a car that the rear spark plugs couldn't be removed without unbolting the motor mounts and lifting the motor.
The Feds mandate that the OBDII codes be readable to the public, it is the manufacturer specific codes that are proprietary and problematic.My local guy had never seen the code my car threw before. Rather than guess at the problem, he suggested a dealer diagnostic so he knew how to proceed.
The code was not an OBDII code. It is one of the proprietary codes that manufacturers get to keep secret. My local guy could read the code, but it was not one he had ever seen before. EKN Excess Temperature, so before he started poking around, he wanted more than the 80% sure path.The Feds mandate that the OBDII codes be readable to the public, it is the manufacturer specific codes that are proprietary and problematic.
Many times I google them and get an answer to what they are.
We do have a guy that has all the manufacturer software licenses who we call in when the need arises.
He may charge a little more than a dealer would to pull the codes, but he is really good when it comes to interpreting them and getting us onto the problem rather than chasing codes hoping we get it right.
My buddy had a 68 390 Mustang Fastback. We daisy chained a couple wobble joints together, we could change it, but a major PITA. Basically same car, different body. Probably would have been faster to just lift the motor.My Tacoma is pushing 11yrs. Normal maintenance and on my 3rd set of tires. I am all city driving and it eats tires, I don't care what they are. I'm well under 5K counting tires.
I had a 67 Ford Fairlane 350GT with a 390 engine. I determined that the drivers side rear spark plug could not be removed without dealing with the motor mount. I cut a hole in the fender well, used an extension when I needed to change that plug and popped a big rubber grommet into the hole when done.
Definitely my experience as well. Once they determine one thing needs a major disassembly, they propose the other stuff that is "getting there" and would require the same labor to get at it, that could be done at the same time to save on future labor. If a place didn't do that, I'd start to wonder about their ability to think clearly, if not their ethics.thats bad "estimating." I have never had a shop charge me twice for the labor to replace multiple parts. I have even had places suggest that more "minor" parts be replaced at the same time as a large repair as the labor would have needed to be replicated when the net "minor part" was needing replaced. It's like when your water pump goes, they may as well replace the thermostat and the belts at the same time as replacing those items later would require most of the same labor to get at those parts. (may vary depending on vehicle)
I got a 2013 Accord and the only time I go to the dealership is to get an oil change as I'm usually in and out within 40 minutes or so. I have a very good/experienced mechanic friend who helps me out but I typically have to drop the car off the night before so he can work on it. That's a giant PITA and waste of time (especially since he doesn't work on the weekends) for an oil change. Lately I've been going to Sullivan Tire for brakes/tire work as they make it super convenient to book an apt online AND they're open on the weekend which works for my schedule.Who is servicing cars at the dealership nowadays?