Canik MC9. One impressive little handgun.

Coyote33 said:
Not sure of the first two, but the second two are still smaller than the MC9.

Also significantly smaller is the Kahr PM9:
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Yes, the Ruger, 642, and KelTec are all smaller than the MC9. But I can only consistently hit with them out to 25 yards. I can hit out the 50 with the M&P, but it’s a big (Glock 19 size) compact pistol.

The MC9 appears to be easier for me to hit at 50 and even possible to hit out to 100. And it’s significantly smaller than the M&P. So if it’s reliable, it bridges the gap between the two for me and is my Goldilocks carry.

A buddy of mine has that little kahr. It’s a hoot to shoot with a smoooooth da trigger. Snappy little SOB.
 
jamison55 said:
Yes, the Ruger, 642, and KelTec are all smaller than the MC9. But I can only consistently hit with them out to 25 yards. I can hit out the 50 with the M&P, but it’s a big (Glock 19 size) compact pistol.

The MC9 appears to be easier for me to hit at 50 and even possible to hit out to 100. And it’s significantly smaller than the M&P. So if it’s reliable, it bridges the gap between the two for me and is my Goldilocks carry.

A buddy of mine has that little kahr. It’s a hoot to shoot with a smoooooth da trigger. Snappy little SOB.
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Not looking for a 50 yard gun in a handgun. For pocket gun purposes, 7 yards, maybe 20 would be fine.
 
After a year of EDC'ing my canik TP9 SF Elite, my only complaint is due to my own stupidity. Storing it in the case in the leather holster, I've developed some minor surface rust on the extended slide release. I would bet money if I just stored it in the case with the factory holster, which would allow my holster to dry in the summer months (I'm still a fatty) betwen carries. No fault of the gun, just my own stupidity.

If I can't clean it off and stop it with a brass brush and boiling the slide release in distilled water, then I will replace it.
 
Update after today’s range trip.

The little Canik continued to run flawlessly for me. 100 more rounds of 115gr range ammo and wimpy handloads without a hitch.

My buddy, OTOH, could not get through a magazine without MULTIPLE failures of the gun to go into battery.

It’s the most puzzling thing. I shoot the gun, bang, bang, bang. He shoots it, bang, bang, click.

Hands it back to me, runs like a top. Hand it to him, bang bang click. Same ammo. Same magazine.

And this guy is not a newbie. 50 something and been shooting regularly his whole life. We shoot a few hundred rounds together every week. And we both have shot just about everything that is out there. He said he’s NEVER shot a gun that ran this poorly.

So I TRIED to get it to fail. One handed strong hand, bang, bang, bang. One handed weak hand. Bang bang bang.

The ONLY failure I had was one failure to go into battery with a mag of 147gr WWB HPs I had rattling around in the back of the ammo safe. But 147 hps are sketchy in a few of my guns.

So now I’m perplexed and rethinking it as a carry gun. On one hand it might be the best carry gun ever. It only works for me 🤣. OTOH, if it fails so easily when someone else shoots it, is it only a matter of time before it fails on me?

This might explain why one person says this gun is the greatest thing since sliced bread and the next guy says it’s garbage. It may actually be super sensitive to the way people shoot it. I tend to have a more aggressive arms locked out stance than him. OTOH, the slide locked open in an empty chamber every time for him, and the only time it locked town for me was the mag I shot weak hand only.

But that’s pretty common among all the guns I own. Today I shot a Glock 19, and my VP9 along side the Canik and the slides didn’t lock back on those either. That’s why I’m so good at counting rounds!
 
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jkelly1229 said:
I love the texture on the hellcat...the tigger is doable if you drop the weight I was super excited to check out the comp'd pro version...but now the legion x macro got me all hot and bothered...and I'm hoping sig drops the scorpion carry version soon.
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Sold my Macro to a friend who had bought a Legion. Going to the metal frame for him kind of defeated the purpose for having a Macro - to carry it.
jamison55 said:
Update after today’s range trip.

The little Canik continued to run flawlessly for me. 100 more rounds of 115gr range ammo and wimpy handloads without a hitch.

My buddy, OTOH, could not get through a magazine without MULTIPLE failures of the gun to go into battery.

It’s the most puzzling thing. I shoot the gun, bang, bang, bang. He shoots it, bang, bang, click.

Hands it back to me, runs like a top. Hand it to him, bang bang click. Same ammo. Same magazine.

And this guy is not a newbie. 50 something and been shooting regularly his whole life. We shoot a few hundred rounds together every week. And we both have shot just about everything that is out there. He said he’s NEVER shot a gun that ran this poorly.

So I TRIED to get it to fail. One handed strong hand, bang, bang, bang. One handed weak hand. Bang bang bang.

The ONLY failure I had was one failure to go into battery with a mag of 147gr WWB HPs I had rattling around in the back of the ammo safe. But 147 hps are sketchy in a few of my guns.

So now I’m perplexed and rethinking it as a carry gun. On one hand it might be the best carry gun ever. It only works for me 🤣. OTOH, if it fails so easily when someone else shoots it, is it only a matter of time before it fails on me?

This might explain why one person says this gun is the greatest thing since sliced bread and the next guy says it’s garbage. It may actually be super sensitive to the way people shoot it. I tend to have a more aggressive arms locked out stance than him. OTOH, the slide locked open in an empty chamber every time for him, and the only time it locked town for me was the mag I shot weak hand only.

But that’s pretty common among all the guns I own. Today I shot a Glock 19, and my VP9 along side the Canik and the slides didn’t lock back on those either. That’s why I’m so good at counting rounds!
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Maybe it's in the trigger pull? If he's experienced, maybe he uses a slow and steady pull, and as the trigger is pulled it starts to slip off of the sear and moves just a tiny fraction, leaving an infinitely smaller shorter distance to go forward and thus hitting just a tad lighter/slower? It sounds like it's the only difference, since even limp wristing should at least have the gun fire. Just my .02. Or, if he is someone who pulls the trigger slightly to the side and there is some play, something similar? Maybe have him try "fast and furiously"?
 
Qwikdraw45 said:
Sold my Macro to a friend who had bought a Legion. Going to the metal frame for him kind of defeated the purpose for having a Macro - to carry it.

Maybe it's in the trigger pull? If he's experienced, maybe he uses a slow and steady pull, and as the trigger is pulled it starts to slip off of the sear and moves just a tiny fraction, leaving an infinitely smaller shorter distance to go forward and thus hitting just a tad lighter/slower? It sounds like it's the only difference, since even limp wristing should at least have the gun fire. Just my .02. Or, if he is someone who pulls the trigger slightly to the side and there is some play, something similar? Maybe have him try "fast and furiously"?
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I want to try the metal frame...supposedly it shoots great.

I'm hoping they release a "scorpion" and they get more aggressive on where the support thumb sits.

The legion kinda screwed it up .. the lines they have suck and make it hard to put grip tape on
 
Qwikdraw45 said:
Sold my Macro to a friend who had bought a Legion. Going to the metal frame for him kind of defeated the purpose for having a Macro - to carry it.

Maybe it's in the trigger pull? If he's experienced, maybe he uses a slow and steady pull, and as the trigger is pulled it starts to slip off of the sear and moves just a tiny fraction, leaving an infinitely smaller shorter distance to go forward and thus hitting just a tad lighter/slower? It sounds like it's the only difference, since even limp wristing should at least have the gun fire. Just my .02. Or, if he is someone who pulls the trigger slightly to the side and there is some play, something similar? Maybe have him try "fast and furiously"?
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I'm a few hundred more rounds into it. Still flawless for me. Still an issue for my friend. I've handed the little gun to everyone I bump into at the range to test fire. Experienced and inexperienced shooters alike. About 10 different people have shot it at this point. It's run flawlessly for everyone but my friend, and my 16yo son. Both of them have the gun fail to go completely into battery between shots, leading to a light primer strike and a dead trigger. When my son shot it, we examined the rounds that didn't go fully into battery, and found a groove across the front of the nose. From the sharp feed ramp. I spent a few hours this weekend polishing the feed ramp to a mirror shine, and every so slightly rounding off the sharp base of it. I will have my friend, who it always fails on, shoot it this week.
 
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