Golddiggie
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I know of a couple of scrap yards that also take the brass. Not sure if they'll take them from regular folks, or only from ranges/businesses.
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Spoken like someone who doesn't reload.Are you shooting at home?
Most ranges have buckets and recycle.
If you are not shooting at a range and have any real volume, find someone going to a range who will drop them for you.
Spoken like someone who doesn't reload.
The only way to be sure you aren't breaking any laws is to go to a buyback with all your guns and ammo. Or grow a pair.
Can you throw used cases with used primers in regular garbage in MA
you should see the stuff that i trash from my reloading room. i just make sure there's nothing in the hefty that id's me. nothing dangerous of course but if that bag bursts at the curb my neighbors will think they live next door to a sleeper cell.
I have talked with others about buying cases from someone in the PRM. It's only worth even trying (in person) if they've been deprimed. NOT going to buy any that even have spent primers in them. One guy wanted a stupid amount to ship them, and didn't seem willing to meet in NH (even though he was going into it and we could have met). For me, it was more a matter of if something happened and the popo saw them, I could get into trouble... So, not worth the pain.
my trash guys love me, they're the least of my troubles. some of the stuff they see in their travels....unless their narcs??And especially not the garbage men.
my trash guys love me, they're the least of my troubles. some of the stuff they see in their travels....unless their narcs??
I don't even throw ammo boxes in the garbage/recycle at home.
Because...
. . .
On the other hand, as has been mentioned above,
(but in contrast to other mistaken statements above),
only the explosive components need to be locked up -
the primers (including live primed cases), powder (and fully assembled ammo).
But not naked brass, not spent primers, not bullets.
At worst, they merely constitute an attractive nuisance.
ETA: I used to labor under the exact same misunderstanding that inert components
had to be locked up. Then I did more homework and understood the Eevil Gun Statute/Splody Thing Fire Regulation distinction in the laws.
I do throw ammo cartons/boxes in my recycle bin and if I pick up a shell casing on the floor of my garage it will go in that same recycle bin. Bins are picked up by mechanical arms on the side of the truck and dumped into the truck. No manual handling involved so I don't care.
CMR does not require locking up brass cases or bullets. But MGL prohibits access to those items by unlicensed parties ...
OK, this happened to a good friend...
I'll call him Fred. Fred was going to visit Bill. Bill lived on Oak St. Extension but you could only get there via Oak Street. And of course Fred got mixed up and stopped at 8 Oak St instead of the Extension.
Fred was bringing Bill some brass cases. He lugged the heavy box of 4000 5.56 cases up to the front door and rang the bell. An old lady looks out at him through the window and Fred realizes he's at the wrong house. So he turns around and heads back to the truck. When he throws the box in the back seat he realizes there's a hole and he's dropped a metric shit ton of empty brass cases on the stairs and walkway of this strange house. He gets spooked and drives away looking for 8 Oak St Extenion (again all names and street names made up).
On the way to his buddy's house he hears police sirens. Oh shit, now he's really spooked. He gets to Bill's house and asks where he can hide his truck? Bill sends him over the lawn around to the back of the house.
Shortly thereafter the neighborhood is being canvassed by several police cars wondering why someone dropped all these empty brass cases on this poor old ladies front yard? He hung out at Bill's for several hours until they were sure the police were gone for sure.
Yeah, some of you might have flagged down the cops and told them what happened. But this guy was really afraid if he got the wrong cop he'd be in deep shit for something or other. This is Massachusetts after all, and a wealthy town within MA.
Oh well, shit happens...
Let's just say that if the police find someone with brass/components/ammo w/o a MA LTC and it becomes known where they got it, that person can expect a very bad time (charges filed) for "allowing access"."Access to", or "possession of", or "leaves unattended with the intent to transfer possession"?
Let's just say that if the police find someone with brass/components/ammo w/o a MA LTC and it becomes known where they got it, that person can expect a very bad time (charges filed) for "allowing access".
Who the hell would want to?Can you throw used cases with used primers in regular garbage in MA
(I can readily believe it's not Massuitable, but)
I also can't find a law that makes it even as criminal as
leaving your classic (i.e., hot-wireable) car unlocked.
To put it another way,
you nearly sent an ADA to the stroke ward
by testifying in superior court that possession of a rifle, and non-large cap clips,
by a holder of an expired FID was not a violation of any criminal laws.
I'd like to think that you could make the case that
being the burglary victim
of a theft of inert brass was also not a crime.
Then again, serving Manhattan Clam Chowder
probably makes one Unsuitable in some jurisdictions.
Who the hell would want to?
The law requires the ammo to be locked up.
Let's just say that if the police find someone with brass/components/ammo w/o a MA LTC and it becomes known where they got it, that person can expect a very bad time (charges filed) for "allowing access".
The risk isn't the statutory penalties. The risk is that the chief will consider you to be unsuitable and pull your LTC, at which point you can't even legally possess firearms in MA.That is just a fire regulation with no teeth. There are things that I worry about, but this isn't one of them.
If children were found with ammo/components that came from a LTC-holder, you can bet your bottom dollar that the LTC would be revoked and no Marsupial judge will overturn that decision.The risk isn't the statutory penalties. The risk is that the chief will consider you to be unsuitable and pull your LTC, at which point you can't even legally possess firearms in MA.
If children were found with ammo/components that came from a LTC-holder, you can bet your bottom dollar that the LTC would be revoked and no Marsupial judge will overturn that decision.
Yes, but how many more similar "jack 'em up, the law be damned" cases have gone forward over the past few years without the benefit of my (or someone as knowledgeable of the real gun laws) expert testimony? ...
And anyone that serves Manhattan clam chowder (yuck) in MA will get no sympathy from me!
Once again, I request that you post a reference to such a case. There is no crime of "allowing access" to ammunition components.
Come on, Len. You keep banging this drum and yet you have not once pointed to a single instance.
I don't visit courthouses where I would be able to obtain the proof you ask for.Come on, Len. You keep banging this drum and yet you have not once pointed to a single instance.
A PD where they revoke an Army Officer's LTC for sitting in the children's section of a Public Library ....
Is this a hypothetical, or did this really happen?A PD where they revoke an Army Officer's LTC for sitting in the children's section of a Public Library ....
Is "being near children" now a crime?