i have a class a ltc can i take a friend shooting who does not have a fid or ltc? can he legally shoot my firearms under my supervision?
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i have a class a ltc can i take a friend shooting who does not have a fid or ltc? can he legally shoot my firearms under my supervision?
No person, other than a licensed dealer or one who has been issued a license to carry a pistol or revolver or an exempt person as hereinafter described, shall own or possess any firearm, rifle, shotgun or ammunition unless he has been issued a firearm identification card by the licensing authority pursuant to the provisions of section one hundred and twenty-nine B.
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The provisions of this section shall not apply to the following exempted persons and uses:
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(m) The temporary holding, handling or firing of a firearm for examination, trial or instruction in the presence of a holder of a license to carry firearms, or the temporary holding, handling or firing of a rifle or shotgun for examination, trial or instruction in the presence of a holder of a firearm identification card, or where such holding, handling or firing is for a lawful purpose;
great now i can print out the law and show it to the guy who said it was illegal. thank you
Not to hijack, but what happens if the unlicensed person is federally prohibited
Not to hijack, but what happens if the unlicensed person is federally prohibited
I am probably wrong, that said I think someone being somehow "prohibited" relates to purchasing, owning and carrying a firearm. Not shooting a firearm under the supervision of an LTC holder.
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You are absolutely wrong. A federally prohibited person can not possess a firearm or ammunition, no matter who is supervising them. That is federal law.
So does "possess" mean he can't even shoot a gun at a range??
Just my layman's interpretation would be that possess means to "own."
Honest question, I can't confirm or deny that I "may" have taken or been shooting with someone who may be in the federally prohibited catagory.
No probably about it.I am probably wrong
At the state level (not sure about the feds), "possess" can even be extended to cover the doctrine of constructive possession which requires only the ability to exercise control, not any actual possession or touching.IANAL, but I believe that in this case, "posess" means to touch.
In the future, I'll just do a NICS check on my grandkids before I take them shooting. Jack.
Most if not all Firearms instructors require a release form to be signed that includes the question. "Have you been convicted of a felony?"
Federally prohibited is not an area I would want to screw with whatsoever While there has been a few people who have said here, "eh, who would know?", I myself will. Ever let a federally prohibited person touch a firearm, even if I disagree with the notion of being federally prohibited
Most if not all Firearms instructors require a release form to be signed that includes the question. "Have you been convicted of a felony?"
The prohibited person I was talking about isn't a felon. He was convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence
Exactly. I wouldn't go out running backgrounds on every range guest, but if there's even the slightest question, they can flirt with prison using someone else's guns.
Interestingly pre GCA-68, when it was still legal for felons to buy guns, some gun stores still had their customers sign a similar type of form.
For the purposes of federal firearms law, he is in the exact same category as a convicted felon.
Wait...how is someone charged with a misdemeanor considered a felon when a felon is someone who commits a felonious crime?
The federal felon-in-possession law had to define what a felony is. The statute's definition of a felony includes misdemeanors punishable by more than two years in prison. Here in MA, a first offense DUI is a misdemeanor punishable by up to 2 1/2 years in prison. Therefore, conviction in MA on a first time DUI makes the defendant a federally prohibited person for life.
Different states have different standards on what is a misdemeanor versus a felony, so the federal law had to come up with some yardstick that can be applied across all states.
Ahh ok. That makes more sense now. I was confused when I read that because I know a cpl ppl with misdemeanors from back in their irresponsible early college years who have their ltc no restrictions but they never did any jail time.
So if a licensed person was caught taking a PP shooting would they also be committing a crime?
Would I be correct in assuming they could lose their license on "suitability" at the very least?
Wait...how is someone charged with a misdemeanor considered a felon when a felon is someone who commits a felonious crime?
The federal felon-in-possession law had to define what a felony is. The statute's definition of a felony includes misdemeanors punishable by more than two years in prison. Here in MA, a first offense DUI is a misdemeanor punishable by up to 2 1/2 years in prison. Therefore, conviction in MA on a first time DUI makes the defendant a federally prohibited person for life.
Different states have different standards on what is a misdemeanor versus a felony, so the federal law had to come up with some yardstick that can be applied across all states.