Ca "Gun Violence Restraining Order"

California lawmakers push 'gun violence restraining order' after mass killing

"The mass killing near Santa Barbara, California, has prompted a proposal to create a "gun violence restraining order" that would temporarily bar a mentally unstable person from buying and possessing firearms after family, partners or friends call police."

I would never expect this to be abused. [rolleyes] Get in an argument with a friend and they call the cops to get you back. You name it, a really really stupid idea but what do we expect from CA dem's.
 
why not just seize all assets while we're at it?
go straight soviet style. no need to dick around with just the guns.
 
Define "mentally unstable"?

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mentally unstable:
(adjective)
1. he/she who seeks to lawfully possess a firearm.
2a. he/she who speaks words or thinks thoughts contrary to mainstream media.
2b. he/she who speaks words or thinks thoughts contrary to government.
3. individuals or groups of individuals who seek freedom.
4. individuals or groups of individuals who carry >10 rds in a single magazine.

note, for 4 please see also terms diabolical and heretic
 
I would never expect this to be abused. [rolleyes] Get in an argument with a friend and they call the cops to get you back. You name it, a really really stupid idea but what do we expect from CA dem's.
Yep... if that goes though it would be good to have a tiny wee-wee, otherwise everyone with one smaller than you will get bent out of shape and go crying to a judge to have you disarmed.
 
Put NRA member at the top of your list.

God! I so badly want to leave the northeast.


mentally unstable:
(adjective)
1. he/she who seeks to lawfully possess a firearm.
2a. he/she who speaks words or thinks thoughts contrary to mainstream media.
2b. he/she who speaks words or thinks thoughts contrary to government.
3. individuals or groups of individuals who seek freedom.
4. individuals or groups of individuals who carry >10 rds in a single magazine.

note, for 4 please see also terms diabolical and heretic



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So .... let me get this straight. Instead of dealing with the mentally ill as an indication of who should be barred from gun ownership - by a qualified professional ... Let John Q Pulic define what the parameters are for people to own guns?

Im sure that this will turn out exactly the way the libs want it. Every left-winger will flip their lid and report anyone that doesnt agree with their warped idea of a utopian communist state. The thought police are here and ready to go.... [thinking]

Just a way to suppress freedom of thought for fear of being targeted.
 
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http://nypost.com/2014/06/01/why-psychiatrists-fail-in-stopping-mass-killers/

"Renée Binder, the president-elect of the American Psychiatric Association, advocates “a Gun Violence Restraining Order, a mechanism that would allow those closest to a troubled individual to act when there are warning signs or indications that person is at risk for violence.”
Sorry, that won’t really help. Set aside the fact that half of Rodger’s killings were stabbings; it’s just not hard to get guns illegally in this country — especially if you’re willing to spend months or years planning your attack, as virtually all of these killers do."
 
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“AB 1014 is a gun control nightmare,” said Brandon Combs, president of CAL-FFL. “California Democrats are taking their radical anti-gun agenda to an entirely new and horrifying level.” Combs, who debated the bill with Assemblymember Williams and UCLA Law Professor Adam Winkler on the Los Angeles-based radio talk show “Which Way, LA?”, said that the bill “guts due process” and the presumption of innocence.

“The subject of a restraining order and confiscation warrant may not even know they have been accused until there’s a SWAT team at their door.”

According to the bill’s text, courts would be required to issue a restraining order if a person–who doesn’t even have to know the target of the order–submits a form saying that a gun owner “poses a significant risk of personal injury to himself, herself, or others by owning or possessing” guns.

Remarked CAL-FFL’s Combs, “In a fit of circular logic, AB 1014 makes the very exercise of Constitutional rights, like purchasing guns or knives, evidence supporting the issuance of a restraining order that would strip a person of those same rights. It’s absolutely insane.”

But the restraining orders aren’t the only problem with the bill, according to CAL-FFL. Assembly Bill 1014 would also mandate that courts order a “firearms seizure warrant” following a restraining order, forcing police and local law enforcement to “seize any firearms in the possession of the named person…from any place, or from any person in whose possession the firearm may be.”

CAL-FFL warned that the broad language of the seizure warrant could lead not only to midnight “no-knock” raids against the subject of the restraining order–who may not even know that their gun rights have been stripped away and that they are now a “prohibited person”–but also the homes of their friends and family, and even places of employment.

Combs believes that the bill’s language is ripe for abuse. “Cyber-bullies like Shannon Watts and her ‘Moms Demand Action’ extremists could simply go on Facebook or Twitter, grab a photo of you and your gun, and slap it on a restraining order request. There’s no criminal or civil penalty for filing false or vexatious reports and no provision for the recovery of damages and someone’s loss of rights. AB 1014 would make it open season on California gun owners.”

Combs continued, “On mere hearsay, an anti-gun judge could instigate a life-ending terror campaign against a gun owner and everyone who knows them.”

http://www.calffl.org/2014/06/night...restraining-orders-firearms-seizure-warrants/
 
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