CA carry permit revoked over TSA dispute

[MaroonedinMA]

How, exactly, does this work? One might expect the TSA to recall this guys dept-issued firearm, but why on earth is his (unrelated) civilian carry permit affected?
TSA: Thousands Standing Around.

A California-based commercial pilot says the Transportation Security Administration retaliated against him after he posted videos online showing what he described as shortcomings in airport security......

......However, when the sheriff's deputies showed up at his house with the air marshals, they also took his California concealed weapons permit. The pilot said this permit was unrelated to his work for the TSA.

Link here

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/24/california.tsa.pilot/index.html?hpt=Sbin

 

[Jose]

CA is discretionary issue for CCW licenses and most likely discretionary revocation too.

Shall issue states almost always have specific, non-discretionary criteria for revocation as well. Pissing off the Sheriff is usually not one of the allowable reasons.

 

[smokey-seven]

Possibly a employment issuance? and if TSA got nasty I suppose they could force that issuance.

 

[vicpinto]

How's that saying go? Something about what the .gov gives they can take away.

 

[HooVooLoo]

Man, this is such a load of horseshit.

"FFDOs must be able to maintain sensitive security information as a condition of the FFDO program," TSA spokeswoman Sarah Horowitz said. "As the issuing authority of credentials and firearms, TSA reviews each possible violation of those standards and acts accordingly up to and including removing an individual from the assigned role."

Umm, okay. All the guy did was post a replay of what everyone can plainly see with their eyes at the security checkpoint. How is what everyone can see "sensitive security information"?

This has nothing to do with his firearm and firearm-related duties as an Air Marshall and/or pilot, much less his personal CCW.

It almost seems like the TSA is being authorized, step-by-step, to become the penultimate federal police squad, taking away the rights of people outside THEIR (The TSA's) own scope with impunity.

 

[noddaduma]

CA is discretionary issue for CCW licenses and most likely discretionary revocation too.

Shall issue states almost always have specific, non-discretionary criteria for revocation as well. Pissing off the Sheriff is usually not one of the allowable reasons.

California is definitely not a shall-issue state. Even so, this was a TSA (read: federal) issue. The sheriff should have told them to go pound sand when they asked him to revoke the pilot's CCW, and there would have been nothing TSA could have done (outside of political pressure). If CalGuns Foundation isn't looking into this already, I'm certain they will in the near future. Great separation of powers case in relation to 2nd Amendment.

 

[Kicker96FS]

I think they are looking at it that he is disgruntled employee and those have been known to "snap". So they are taking precaution and removing his firearms, but it's ok if he pilots a plane.................... yeah.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

I think they are looking at it that he is disgruntled employee and those have been known to "snap". So they are taking precaution and removing his firearms, but it's ok if he pilots a plane.................... yeah.

One of the basic rules of licensing is that if you make the agency that issues your license look like idiots, they will make you look like a former license holder.

 

[Jose]

One of the basic rules of licensing is that if you make the agency that issues your license look like idiots, they will make you look like a former license holder.

It doesn't work that way in most shall-issue states.

 

[FreeWillie]

The message is clear and simple: Don't f**k with the gubment or we'll get you. This bunch we have in office keeps score. Remember that.

 

[davemata]

He'll be lucky if he's not implicated in a future terrorist plot, as an "insider watching and cataloging sensitive security areas."

Our tax dollars at work, awesome.

 

[Jose]

He'll be lucky if he's not implicated in a future terrorist plot, as an "insider watching and cataloging sensitive security areas."

Wouldn't shock me in the least if you end up being right

 

[MaroonedinMA]

One of the basic rules of licensing is that if you make the agency that issues your license look like idiots, they will make you look like a former license holder.

Certainly true, however the license was issued by the state of CA and the "offense" committed against a Federal Org.

 

[SteelShooter]

tick tock, tick tock.....

 

[Jose]

tick tock, tick tock.....

+1

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Certainly true, however the license was issued by the state of CA and the "offense" committed against a Federal Org.

One of them. The other was his FFDO credentials.